http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/ Discusion group for 75 years of the Middle Ages (1250-1325) Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:25:54 GMT Sharon Ann Burnston http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7068 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7068 ... ==== That's as I thought, and as I feared. Certainly there are center seams in 14c outer garments (mi-parti), but I don't know of any in this period. But I Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:40:54 GMT Henk 't Jong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7067 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7067 Hi, Teffania wrote: I can't recall any centre seams before the 14thC, and I'm not even sure about those. By the time centrefront closure with buttons came into Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:31:12 GMT Tiffany Brown http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7066 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7066 Hi, I have a different take on this. I come from a 12th C focus, especially concerned with clothing and fibres, but I think my comments should apply to your Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:53:56 GMT Sharon Ann Burnston http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7065 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7065 ... Dear Jo and Henk Thank you both for the replies! I intend to remove the excess fabric completely, as I wish to minimize bulk under my outer clothes. My Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:22:50 GMT JBurrows http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7064 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7064 Yes, what I meant but you said it much better. Cheers Jo/Tanikh ... From: Henk 't Jong To: 75years@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 12:58 AM Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:58:56 GMT Henk 't Jong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7063 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7063 Linen clothing dating from the middle ages is very rare. There are some items in church treasuries, but almost nothing was found in archaeological digs, Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:44:54 GMT JBurrows http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7062 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7062 Personally, regardless of existing provenance or not, I would cut a centre seam...we have so little existing whole from that period that I would be inclined to Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:57:42 GMT sharonannburnston http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7061 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7061 Dear all, Having labored mightily on a new smock/undertunic (Nockert type I) of fine linen, I was rather pleased with its progress, all seams flatfelled @ 5mm Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:45:26 GMT roel oosterop http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7060 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7060 Hello Henk, Alive and kicking. However, after marrying and moving to a new place last year, AND busy with re-enacting, it is more and more difficult finding Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:55:29 GMT Michael Hurley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7059 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7059 ... I could see it being a representation of pattern welding, but see my response below. ... Does that have to be a fuller? I could see it being a Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:31:05 GMT mart_h_shearer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7058 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7058 So, what's the opinion of the helm in this incised brass of two knights from Jerpoint, Ireland? Another poorly drawn flat-topped heaume?, crest?... The Huth Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:28:10 GMT Henk 't Jong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7057 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7057 Fascinating. I suppose I stand corrected then. Henk Van: 75years@yahoogroups.com [mailto:75years@yahoogroups.com] Namens mart_h_shearer Verzonden: zaterdag 18 Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:13:25 GMT Henk 't Jong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7056 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7056 Hi Mart, You wrote: Although Villard de Honnecourt is too early for the period covered by this board, I believe it is unquestionable that he had more artistic Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:10:18 GMT mart_h_shearer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7052 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7052 Although Villard de Honnecourt is too early for the period covered by this board, I believe it is unquestionable that he had more artistic ability than we see Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:10:41 GMT mart_h_shearer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7050 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/75years/message/7050 On the issue of the wavy fullers, I have noticed this feature in other 13th century manuscripts. The last time I brought it up (Sword Forum?, Net Sword?,