http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/ Allen Models Engines Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:27:23 GMT Roy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3800 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3800 Hi All, Thought I would pass this along to you. I copied the following from another group and pasted here: All Almost done with the NG&SLHS newsletters. Book Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:02:57 GMT John Haskey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3799 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3799 ... I'm confused. On my Chloe the firebox extends beneath the cab floor. Are you arranging things differently? Based on the picture you must be. Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:09:50 GMT Mike Massee http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3798 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3798 OK, as I thought. I'm on the same page now. :) Thanks for the photos. :) The attachment thing is better than how it worked before, where you got them if Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:29:24 GMT Bill Shields http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3797 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3797 I see them now, thanks _____ From: AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of emccamey.rm Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:24:54 GMT emccamey.rm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3796 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3796 ... Bill when a group in Yahoo allows attachments, they get stripped and put in a special folder under messages labeled "Attachments". From the web site group Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:54:31 GMT Bill Shields http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3795 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3795 really.....hmmmmm...they didn't come on my 'reply'... interesting... thx b _____ From: AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:53:03 GMT Bruce Saylor http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3794 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3794 Bill, I got them!!! Bruce _____ From: AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Shields Sent: Thursday, November 05, Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:50:44 GMT Bill Shields http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3793 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3793 oops - pictures won't attach if you want them, e-mail me directly bshields at mehrs dot com _____ From: AllenLocos@yahoogroups.com Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:48:20 GMT Bill Shields http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3792 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3792 the plate is always above - the big 'air in' holes must be away from the combustion area. the plate fits the firebox to within 1/16" all the way around. holes Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:57:32 GMT Mike Massee http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3791 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3791 Just got an answer from Robert Morris who built the plate...he indicates it goes above the mixture / venturi holes, and to leave maybe a small (1/8 dia) gap Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:31:55 GMT Mike Massee http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3790 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3790 Bill, do you have a photo of your bottom closeout plate? There's a couple of details I am unclear on. Is the plate located above or below the large air mixture Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:00:34 GMT Mike Massee http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3789 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3789 I think for a smaller boiler you have the right idea. Probably could be even more efficient with the bottom closeout, but if you don't need it, you don't Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:06:55 GMT Phillip Cohen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3788 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3788 Our Allen American has no arch and the burners are down near the bottom of the firebox even with the mud ring with a good 2 or more inches to the crown sheet. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:30:39 GMT outback_mike http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3787 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3787 Bill, In general the little tea kettle 5" boilers on the Chloes never have arches...compared to the size of the burners there's just not that much room in Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:35:18 GMT Bill Shields http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3786 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AllenLocos/message/3786 you might want to consider an arch, or all your heat will go straight up the tubes. if you don't have an arch, then you probably should consider getting the