http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/ Anglo Saxon Lyres Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:02:32 GMT Tim Caldwell http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1677 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1677 ... Hi Simon, I agree with you that caution needs to be excersised here, but at the same time, manuscript illustrations are one of the main sources of evidence Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:28:15 GMT simon@... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1676 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1676 Hello all This is a very cool picture of lyre players indeed, but I am concerned about the conclusions we are drawing here. My main issue is that anyone who Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:51:33 GMT Doug Saball http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1675 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1675 Hi Roger, Yes it is a bit off topic, and it is not in my policy to "push" my beliefs onto anyone. After my BS degree (Env. Science) I turned down a MS program Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:34:34 GMT Roger http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1674 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1674 The Seven Seals is a controversial topic now days. In 1963, William Branham preached inspiring messages on the Seven Seals in Jeffersonville Indiana. Hundreds Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:18:29 GMT Doug Saball http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1673 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1673 My similar thoughts.  This is a "representation" picture and very stylized so it may not be that accurate. Disclaimer: I went to a Bible collage for a few Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:39:03 GMT sca_bard@... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1672 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1672 I'd guess they're either the seven trumpets or seven bowls of Revelation (since they're in something called the Bamberg Apocalypse): From Wikipedia: Bible Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:19:11 GMT niki naeve http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1671 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1671 Does anyone know what this image may mean, overall? I see what look like angels pouring wine (or blood) onto the heads of a group of lyre players. I'm Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:49:17 GMT wernerbuchin http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1670 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1670 ... Tim Hallo Tim, thank you very much for your long response to "playing-technique". Yes, this was my feeling too, when i first saw this illustration on my Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:58:24 GMT Patrick Woolery http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1669 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1669 Regarding sound holes, I have to say that such were known and common on other instruments at the time when lyres were in use.  The lack of such on a lyre may Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:51:37 GMT Tim Caldwell http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1668 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1668 ... Hi Werner, Thanks for uploading those files, they're very interesting. I think the illustration from Als is a bit too vague to be useful. If the object in Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:31:33 GMT LM http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1666 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1666 Fair warning. In making my first copy of the "Gunnar in the snake pit" lyre, I counted what looked like 16 strings on the wood carving (Norwegian stavkirk door Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:23:51 GMT LM http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1665 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1665 Not having played a lyre with sound-holes, I can't really compare, but if it works for you, then why not? Some of the folks on this list have added electric Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:13:53 GMT Kazimierz Verkmastare http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1664 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1664 Just a couple of thoughts on soundholes and such. The violin f-holes do not do the same thing as a round guitar sound-hole. F-holes de-couple the bridge from Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:46:23 GMT matthewvanitas http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1663 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1663 My current AS lyre is a bit ahistorical, since it has zither pegs and rosette soundhole vice friction pegs and none. Since my interest in the lyre is based on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:13:47 GMT Scot Eddy http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1662 http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglo_Saxon_Lyres/message/1662 The 'Als' has me confuzzled (not a great feat) but I really like the 'Montpellier' How many strings does the 'Montpellier' have? I count 9 or 11 depending on