http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/ Bartitsu Forum Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:16:57 GMT Tony Wolf http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8857 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8857 Hi Michael, thanks for the heads-up, but we try to keep posts to the Bartitsu Forum focussed on directly-related topics. Cheers, Tony Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:57:05 GMT Michael Strain http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8856 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8856 Hello Everyone, For those of you that may already no about this I apologies, but something like this bares repeating. The retailer Spirit has started a Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:05:36 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8855 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8855 _Click here: YouTube - on the street it changes....dirty judo_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U96M9aJCsmo) ---this is my defendu instructor carl Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:01:33 GMT Tony Wolf http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8854 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8854 Hi all, as I work on compiling the documentary footage into editable shape, I've been reviewing a lot of interview footage with Bartitsu historians Will Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:53:49 GMT Thomas http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8853 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8853 Thanks Tony, Yes, we are scheduling Bartitsu classes as a one of the regular sessions and we will be focusing on savate and jiujitsu in the focus. David, John Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:11:17 GMT Tony Wolf http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8852 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8852 Hi Terence, the Vigny vs. Lambert boxing match reference did ring a faint bell. 20 July 1898 makes more chronological sense that does 1888, which is the date Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:08:59 GMT Tony Wolf http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8851 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8851 http://www.bartitsu.org/ - some more images from the production of the Bartitsu documentary and news about the Bartitsu Club Russia initiative, including an Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:03:18 GMT Tony Wolf http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8850 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8850 Hi Jason, when I interviewed Harry Cook last month, he speculated in the same direction re. Uyenishi's spinning hook kick - might have been thinking back to Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:58:47 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8849 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8849 jason, could it also be that some forms of japanese jiu jitsu had a spinning kick before the advent of te or savate to their knowledge--i believe if you trace Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:55:56 GMT Jason Couch http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8848 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8848 Or could even be the influence of French military instructors teaching in Japan in late 1800s. There was a good article on that in JAMA or Dragon Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:49:04 GMT none http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8847 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8847 please note in apollos book[pages 126-127] this same "la savatte" kick used as a defense against a boxing blow by apollo by uyenishi--i wonder if this is real Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:39:30 GMT none http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8846 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8846 attacks on the abdomen are usually delivered when the victim is on his back on the ground. the hooligan, instead of taking the astride position[TODAYS BJJ Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:35:40 GMT none http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8845 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8845 blows on the face are sometimes delivered with the knee or top of head. in some places hooligans have a way of placing their hahand at the back of their Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:24:37 GMT none http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8844 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8844 bring your left foot to the ground again and continue to turn round, in a right turn, you deliver anothe partly sideways and partly backwards kick with your Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:16:50 GMT none http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8843 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bartitsu_Forum/message/8843 the manual actual mentions a method used and talks about la savatte--if you intend to deliver a kick with your left foot you stand first of all with your right