http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/ Beatty-Byrnes DNA Cluster Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:13:11 GMT dnalister@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2861 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2861 Hi José! Happy New Year! I think L176 results for you would be of interest to all P312+ researchers, so go for it! Kirsten ... From: "José CALVETE" Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:43:55 GMT José CALVETE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2860 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2860 Hi Kirsten and all ! First of all happy New year to you all ! I just have one question... As I tested negative for L-21 would it be interesting for the group Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:49:26 GMT Samuel Neal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2859 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2859 Maybe this will clear up any confusion. At least this is what I got via e-mail: "*THIS IS A BULK EMAIL INTENDED ONLY FOR THOSE MEN WHO ARE P312+ BUT NEGATIVE Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:28:18 GMT dnalister@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2858 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2858 I should see if I can tell from the R-L21 WTY results. After all, the original L21 guy was the son of an R-P312* guy, but if the WTY is successfully covering Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:14:09 GMT Samuel Neal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2857 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2857 I believe L176 was found in a R-P312* testee from the WTY Project. If this is the case, then it will not be present in L21 males, yet still downstream of P312. Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:39:24 GMT dnalister@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2856 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2856 Earl, I do appreciate your willingness to contribute to our knowledge base. Should we first ask Rich if L176 has been tested much in R-L21? There might be Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:13:33 GMT Earl Beaty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2855 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2855 Kirsten, Last evening Richard Stevens sent a message to members of the R-P312 and Subclades Project encouraging more testing of L176.2. He needs to know how Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:29:42 GMT dnalister@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2854 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2854 Is that the one that was found in P312? If so, I think that it may be negative within R-L21, but I am not sure. Thank you for asking. I will look into it. Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:20:21 GMT hubertcarmack http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2853 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2853 Concerning a mutation L176.2. I have been away for awhile and this may have been discussed before...sorry if this is old news. Do we need some testing for Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:01:58 GMT Jim Long http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2852 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2852 Earl, Thanks much for the clarification. Jim From: Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Earl Beaty Sent: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:42:57 GMT Earl Beaty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2851 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2851 I can offer a little better explanation of the data situation. Our project data is available at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/DYS464x Fri, 01 Jan 2010 07:07:33 GMT Earl Beaty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2850 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2850 Jim, You only match 2 of the keys., so you didn't make the cut. This is a problem. --Earl From: Beatty_Byrnes_DNA@yahoogroups.com Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:16:03 GMT dnalister@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2849 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2849 I thought there were some men missing, but I hadn't put my finger on who they all were. I think that one of the benefits of crunching data is that we can see Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:53:46 GMT Jim Long http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2848 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2848 Earl, My eyes are pretty bad, but it seems like I didn't make the latest chart. Is this an oversight or a new rationale that I haven't yet grasped? Thanks, Jim Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:57:25 GMT Earl Beaty http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2847 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beatty_Byrnes_DNA/message/2847 Earlier (12/15/2009) I submitted a preliminary report on a project I have been working on. The task is to download records from Ysearch, merge them with