http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/ Bytemarks Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:58:11 GMT Jeff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2618 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2618 Anyone grow up watching Dragnet? I loved watching Jack Webb (Sgt Joe Friday) "Just the facts Ma'am" Anecdotal information is nice but let's leave it to the Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:35:45 GMT Patrick Kelly http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2617 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2617 Education vs. industry is a chicken vs. egg issue, I'd say. With regard to DOE, currently we're talking about taking money away and people losing jobs, not Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:21:35 GMT Larry Geller http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2616 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2616 I've written a bit about this on my blog. A story: years ago, when Paul LeMahieu had just become DOE supt and Randy Hits (?) came on at the school of education Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:04:07 GMT Paul Lawler http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2615 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2615 ... I take exception to that remark. ;o) Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:07:41 GMT Peter Kay http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2614 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2614 David, First of all, the state isn't giving any tax money. It's allowing people to risk their own money to build new, tax-paying businesses. Second, if there's Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:34:22 GMT Todd Cochrane http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2613 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2613 Jeff If those young and bright are building technology companies in Hawaii, I can tell you where they are, they are back in the mainland drumming up business Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:47:36 GMT Patrick Spargur http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2612 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2612 ryan thanks for the thoughtful positioning. Amazon is clearly (and correctly) letting Lingle know that this tax won't generate income because the main Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:46:51 GMT Jeff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2611 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2611 I like the discussion. I have been waiting for close to 30 years for Hawaii citizens to get to the boiling point re education, the economy, politics etc. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:35:52 GMT Paul Lawler http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2610 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2610 ... Even if that is true Todd, there's no way the state is going to "completely scrap" the DOE. It's just not going to happen. You've been in Hawaii long Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:44:27 GMT Blaine Fergerstrom http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2609 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2609 Aloha 'oe, this sucks.Unsubscribing in 3-2-1... -- Blaine Fergerstrom zztype@... http://www.zztype.com Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:31:42 GMT Todd Cochrane http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2608 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2608 The DOE in its current form need to be completely scrapped. States with schools ranked at the top annually have local school boards which this state Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:50:21 GMT J. David Beutel http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2607 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2607 Before complaining about scaling back Act 221, you might want to include in those position papers why the state should continue giving any tax money to Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:49:45 GMT R. Scott Belford http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2606 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2606 The Governor has officially announced her intent to veto HB1405 http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2009/bills/gm781_.pdf It's on. ... The bailouts were Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:59:11 GMT Todd Cochrane http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2605 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2605 Sad Thing is the Dems have vowed to over-ride so you better get on the phone not email with your reps and start talking to them.. We need to all come together Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:13:10 GMT Peter Kay http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2604 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bytemarks/message/2604 While I'm really, really tempted to debate you, Larry, on the merits of your "trillions given to rich bankers" claim, I'm going to instead thank you for the