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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:23:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>David LeVine</dc:creator>
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      <description>... That is wire EDM, sinker EDM would just cut through the copper, then bottom out on the FRP substrate. -- David G. LeVine Nashua, NH  03060</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:13:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>David LeVine</dc:creator>
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      <description>... No, but it does help limit vibration, and that is why it exists. -- David G. LeVine Nashua, NH  03060</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:02:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Roland Jollivet</dc:creator>
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      <description>What do you mean by &#39;top to bottom&#39;? Electro-Discharge Machining uses spark erosion to remove metal. So you have the board laying flat in some EDM fluid. Then</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:02:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Will Holding</dc:creator>
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      <description>Not necessarily- sometimes it uses an electrode mounted on a Z axis. I think this is called &quot;sinker&quot; EDM. ... From: &quot;Michael Fagan&quot; &lt;woodworker88@...&gt; </description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:45:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Elson</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Somebody, I thought it was LPKF, had a machine a decade or so ago that worked this way.  it had a drum that you wrapped a substrate around.  This was a </description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:39:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Elson</dc:creator>
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      <description>... There is a machine that does this in air, with an EDM-like process. They use a flexible substrate that is wrapped around a rotating drum, and a wire is</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <description>... what did u have in mind to edm pcb&#39;s?  That sounds like an interesting idea.</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:42:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michael Fagan</dc:creator>
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      <description>How would you etch a board using EDM?  EDM cuts all the way through from the top to bottom. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:00:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Roland Jollivet</dc:creator>
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      <description>Laser drilling of via&#39;s is not new, maybe 10 years old. And yes, pulsed Yag. If you look at any compact board from the east, the via&#39;s are barely visible. All</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:43:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Elson</dc:creator>
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      <description>Danny Miller wrote: Yup, if you&#39;ve ever had a power circuit burn out violently, it will leave condensed copper vapor on the board, and it is nearly impossible</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Elson</dc:creator>
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      <description>... If they are actually laser drilled, they are drilled by a really high power pulsed laser, YAG I think.  The explosive vaporization of the epoxy leaves a</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:03:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Will Holding</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi Alan; If you are routing it with something like a Dremel, my guess is you are work hardenering the copper (which work hardens very easily) I know Dremels</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:30:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Roland Jollivet</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi alan Knee jerk response is; If you want to use a CO2 laser, the power would have to be a bit higher than if the substrate was a wafer of steel. Shiny copper</description>
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      <title>Re: Laser &quot;route&quot; Printed Circuit Boards</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:29:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Danny Miller</dc:creator>
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      <description>Yep, I was gonna say this.  Copper is a near perfect IR laser reflector, and also a great thermal conductor to remove heat from the cutting zone which keeps it</description>
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      <title>MPG CNC Project</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:26:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>stcnc2000</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hey guys, for those who want to build MPG. I put a test video and pdf file on how to make it at my CNC projects page. </description>
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