http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/ Discussion of Celtic Art Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:38:24 GMT Kercher, Amy J. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5148 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5148 My mentor reccomended a no. 2 graphite. Put the edition number(1/100, 2/100...) in the lower left corner, followed by thre title and then your signature in the Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:58:11 GMT Stephen W http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5147 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5147 There is a very good collection of Penal Crosses on display at the Hunt Museum in Limerick. If memory serves, the sizes range from maybe 4 or 5 inches for the Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:49:37 GMT ny2sml http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5146 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5146 Mr. Gunn, Thank you so much for information regarding my cross. I just sent the museum an email as you instructed and I included your information along with Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:29:52 GMT Aidan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5145 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5145 Yes Marion I know I make accurate small scale replica's of these Penal Crosses and have done for a good number of years now. Kind regards. Aidan Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:08:34 GMT Marion Gunn http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5144 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5144 Those I have seen all have very short arms (for reasons no time to go into, as Monday morning 9:45 now and work to do). Hope this helps. mg ... -- Marion Gunn Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:48:30 GMT Aidan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5143 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5143 You what I keep making this mistake, spelling Greek as creek. I am going to give myself ten lashes, ouch. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:43:46 GMT Aidan Breen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5142 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5142 Penal Crucifixes commonly called penal crosses were originally made in the 18th and 19th centuries at a time when the Penal Laws were in force against the Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:51:00 GMT Marion Gunn http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5141 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5141 Apologies for typo below - recte "Iarsmalann Náisiúnta na hÉireann". mg ... Apologies for typo below - recte "Iarsmalann Nisinta na hireann". mg Scrobh Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:48:05 GMT Marion Gunn http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5140 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5140 Dear Pam, I suggest you contact Iarsamalann Náisiúnta na hÉireann (the national Museum of Ireland) at http://www.museum.ie/en/homepage.aspx. If you wish to Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:34:33 GMT ny2sml http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5139 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5139 Steve, My family and I received the cross when my Grandfather died in 1993. In Scarsdale NY. My family is Irish and from NY. Langan is my Grandfather's name. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:19:47 GMT Stephen W http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5138 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5138 Pam, Has your family owned this object for a long time? Or is it something that was more recently acquired? It would be interesting and useful to know the more Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:23:56 GMT Stephen W http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5137 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5137 Hello listers! ... there ... I don't know mutch about these things, other than I have seen a few in the museum and have sold some silver pendants that Aidan Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:58:36 GMT geek_primeus http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5136 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5136 ... If I use graphite, What kind? regular number 2 pencil? or what? Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:37:43 GMT Kercher, Amy J. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5135 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5135 k it has to do with acidity and archival quality. Amy ________________________________ From: Celtic_Art@yahoogroups.com [Celtic_Art@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:28:21 GMT Hartenstine, Raymond http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5134 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celtic_Art/message/5134 For what it is worth here is some information from Wikipedia on paper, acid paper, brittle books and paper pulp information for anyone who is interested. Ray