http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/ Cruzbike Recumbent Riders International Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:38:07 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4382 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4382 I suppose the Sivio could have been made from carbon but I guess that would have doubled the Price ! ... From: Bob Kaplan To: Cruzbike@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:56:56 GMT Bob Kaplan http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4381 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4381 If you are interested in a light weight recumbent -- then building up a Silvio from medium to high end standard road components will be a viable solution- and Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:42:09 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4380 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4380 I heard a sharp rap will crack one but normal stressess don,nt seem to harm them ,if that were the case they would be long gone by now ! ... From: Gabriel Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:31:25 GMT Bob Kaplan http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4379 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4379 But don't forget that the current version of my 5900 - the Madone 5.9 is priced well over $4,000. Add all of the fancy bits that I have on my old Trek; and Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:57:03 GMT Gabriel Sierra http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4378 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4378 Yeah, Carbon bikes are light, but when you flick on the top tube, it sounds like a drinking straw! It is a bit...disturbing...Nah! Gabriel Sierra Bike Tourist Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:35:22 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4377 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4377 Thanks for that very helpful info. ... From: Rex Woodville-Price To: Cruzbike@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:29 AM Subject: RE: [Cruzbike] Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:33:06 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4376 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4376 Thanks for the info,I recently for the first time lifted a standard carbon bike while in a bike shop and was floored by how light it was ! ... From: Kendrick Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:23:13 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4375 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4375 Thank You for that very comprehensive and detail exsplanation,the reason I asked was because the Silvio looks very light and was just curious exsactly how much Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:29:32 GMT Rex Woodville-Price http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4374 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4374 v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}..shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} The rear axel would Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:22:29 GMT Bob Kaplan http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4373 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4373 My Trek 5900 with American Classic Mag Clinchers, and lots of very expensive equipment including Stronglite Pulsion cranks, and Zero Gravity brakes weighs 14 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:39:16 GMT Kendrick Ling http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4372 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4372 Giant TCR Advanced T-Mobile Team team bike Weight: 7.4kg (16.3lb) with pedals Price: US$6000 (stock TCR Advanced T-Mobile Team), US$10,500 cheers Kendrick ... Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:58:54 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4371 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4371 how does that weight compare to a top end road bike ... From: Kendrick Ling To: Cruzbike@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:17:05 GMT Kendrick Ling http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4370 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4370 ... quoting http://www.actionbent.com/silvio.html "Current Weight when built up with Easton Wheelset, Shimano Ultegra components and FSA carbon cranks 11.5kg" Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:13:21 GMT August http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4369 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4369 Does anyone know the exsact weight of a Silvio with fairly high end components also does anyone have any concerns about the safty of the rear axle snaping ? Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:00:22 GMT farsightful http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4368 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cruzbike/message/4368 ... On the Mongoose you are paying for a disk brake you won't be able to use with the kit. On the Next, the horizontal bar that is going to be your seat mount