http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/ DBMMlist Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:26:33 GMT Cam http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106443 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106443 ... See it now. "There are only 2 instances in which an element can even partly enter a space insufficient for its own frontage between any of: elements, Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:24:16 GMT blackaddersapprentice http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106442 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106442 ... Sorry answer required more cheek less tounge on my part, I blame shift work. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:12:02 GMT Cam http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106441 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106441 The conumbrum for me is that the Spontaneous Advance section has, well, the word "advance" in it. Advance to me has always had conatations of moving forward. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:37:22 GMT Mike Campbell http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106440 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106440 ... Neither. Parthian camels with arrows are irregular baggage - it seems the Parthians managed to think ahead without having to be "regular"! The difference Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:35:25 GMT Mike Campbell http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106439 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106439 ... But if the other army isn't starving either then what is hte difference in what the baggage has achieved? Therewere massive armies historically with Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:19:47 GMT Tim http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106438 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106438 Technically, if this is adopted, the rectangles must also be able to extend off the base edge, if they are to remain rectangles. The front edge of an oblique Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:19:37 GMT Tim http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106437 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106437 FWIW, I've occasionally quite deliberately spent a group of Irr Bw(I) that were acting as a screen to my Irr Kn(F). Once they've done their job sometimes its Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:13:39 GMT Tim http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106436 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106436 Using the suggested wording would only work for the very front rank. When you deploy any troops more than 1 rank deep, the 2nd and susbsequent ranks would not Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:08:27 GMT Tim http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106435 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106435 And the point is that a well-organised Roman army was less likely to be left to starve. If you want to model a Roman army that didn't avail itself of Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:04:42 GMT Tim http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106434 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106434 Of course some Irregulars had blacksmiths. But professional commisariats made sure (as far as possible) that everyone was properly equipped, that wagon trains Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:45:22 GMT Laz http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106433 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106433 Tell Sue thanks Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:50:28 GMT Mike Campbell http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106432 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106432 ... Excpt there's no "history" in DBMM - so nothing about troops getting tired. Plus Wb kill 2 infantry at a time, and are only 1/2 ME each so can take Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:00:01 GMT Steve Burt http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106431 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106431 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Thomas Thomas ... Seems to me you've misunderstood what a 'quick kill' is supposed to represent. Doubling someone kills them Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:43:17 GMT Steve Burt http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106430 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106430 ... The second one means the element moves backwards, which is illegal for group moves, so I can't see how it is legal. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:15 GMT happywanderer444 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106429 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist/message/106429 Does anyone want to arrange a game. If so email me at happywanderers83@... John Fletcher