http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/ The DILFED Forum Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:34:07 GMT Manuel Faelnar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12901 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12901 The Srivijaya Empire -- In the southern peninsula, the Srivijaya Empire, based in Java, Indonesia, began to play an important role in cultural affairs. Before Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:31:27 GMT Jason Paul Laxamana http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12900 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12900 Hello and a Happy New Year! Please watch the preview of my upcoming Kapampangan short film DUNGIS (Stain)... . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fW8SwENQDg . Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:50:30 GMT girlieoschick http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12899 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12899 Looking for SEX partner! Check my H.O.T photos here: http://cayleegirlz.zoomshare.com/files/intimate.htm Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:49:17 GMT girlieoschick http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12898 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12898 Looking for SEX partner! Check my H.O.T photos here: http://cayleegirlz.zoomshare.com/files/intimate.htm Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:12:25 GMT Manuel Faelnar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12897 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12897 Indeed, very likely. Strongest evidence seems to be found in Butuan but discussion of that is in the grammar volume of Trosdal's work. I lent my copy to the Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:15:34 GMT litogo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12896 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12896 ... The Visayan scripts are almost identical with the scripts in Luzon. That was the script being described by the friars (I think it was Alcina). Lito Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:57:40 GMT Tumbagang Isda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12895 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12895 Sulat Moros were modified Arabic script and has no relationship to baybayin at all. _____ From: DILFED@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DILFED@yahoogroups.com] On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:53:19 GMT litogo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12894 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12894 ... Who were the "foreigners"? The Maguindanaon might be wrong to attribute it to the Arabic script. However, "baybayin" is a usurpation coined by Verzosa. As Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:37:00 GMT Tumbagang Isda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12893 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12893 Sorry, but it was a Filipino that started it thinking relationship with Arabic. Then a foreigner picked it up. I do personally refused to use the term. Kavi Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:19:50 GMT Tumbagang Isda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12892 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12892 No one really pulls strings in relations of each trading states. This is what you might find interesting. The capital of Champa was called Indrapura from 876 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:19:09 GMT Jason Paul Laxamana http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12891 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12891 Just a sidenote: I hope we stop using the term 'Alibata.' From what I have known for the past years, the term Alibata is a mistake. Baybayin is the correct Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:15:49 GMT litogo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12890 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12890 ... Sri Vijaya uses the kawi script which can be trace to its Indic source. Our own Alibata could not could not be traced to kawi. That made some people Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:03:33 GMT Tumbagang Isda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12889 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12889 http://www.seaceramic.org.sg/foreign_news/ocsp/09_05_06.pdf http://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2007/04/01/another-facet-of-calatag Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:51:39 GMT litogo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12888 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12888 ... Yes it was but the Sailendras (Sri Vijaya) in Palembang who were pulling all the strings. Come to think that "Sri Vijaya" was only rediscovered in the Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:43:32 GMT bankaw_itomon http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DILFED/message/12887 thanks for your reply. i have some points thats still unclear. 1. then the chams being a vassal of sri-vijaya, as you say, by logic must have influenced the