http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/ The Fabric of Reality List: The work of David Deutsch Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:48:19 GMT Alan Forrester http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15173 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15173 Hallo peeps, When discussing intellectual matters many people don't express themselves clearly and don't stake out a clear position. I think this is a bad Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:43:20 GMT Elliot Temple http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15172 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15172 ... Is there some reason MWI does not qualify? -- Elliot Temple http://curi.us/ Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:43:12 GMT Peter D Jones http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15171 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15171 ... It's the unjstified assumption of Platonism/AR. Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:43:06 GMT Elliot Temple http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15170 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15170 ... By explanation and critical argument. BTW Popper isn't looking for *statistical* corroborations. His approach uses creativity not statistics. ... We're Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:43:31 GMT Bruno Marchal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15169 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15169 ... What does that mean? I have tried hard to never publicly defend any ideas concerning any subject. I am just a poor humble applied logician, working thus Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:40:29 GMT Bruno Marchal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15168 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15168 ... But if a "verification" does not support, even partially, a theory, how can we distinguish between an incorrect statistical corroboration, and a correct Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:40:25 GMT hibbsa http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15167 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15167 Or I guess String Theory, like MWI, is a wave-only category of theory. Sorry about that. Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:39:36 GMT hibbsa http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15166 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15166 What I mean, does the wave/particle duality effect emerge naturally from the math describing string dynamics - vibrations and so on? If not, then are there any Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:39:16 GMT hibbsa http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15165 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15165 ... As a 'bottom-line' what Deutch says seems correct, but only so long as account is taken of how the evolving nature of scientific methodology may alter the Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:37:40 GMT David Schneider-Joseph http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15164 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15164 ... I think you are misunderstanding the meaning of "selection" in this list of criteria. What you describe sounds like exhaustive search coupled with Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:36:29 GMT Elliot Temple http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15163 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15163 ... To clarify, I don't think the word 'verification' implies gaining certainty. But I object to "weak" (non-certain) verification just as much as "strong" Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:35:46 GMT Elliot Temple http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15162 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15162 ... Isn't creation with inheritability the same thing as replication? Both mean a new thing is created with most but not all of the traits of the old thing. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:33:08 GMT russell standish http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15161 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15161 ... I think it is entirely valid to apply the moniker evolution to any system that satisfies Lewontin's 3 principles of variation, selection and Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:32:54 GMT Bill Taylor http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15160 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15160 Elliot says (privately): -> By saying Bruno is right about verification, This is an argument about word meanings (i.e. common/standard usages). It is well Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:31:54 GMT Elliot Temple http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15159 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/message/15159 ... Here it is proposed to redefine "verification" to something which is possible to get (specifically a combination of A) best explanation B) corroboration).