http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/ FATE Fri, 24 May 2013 03:33:25 GMT John Rudd http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26408 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26408 Buy "Clever" to a common level of education, and then buy a stunt for +1 (broad skill) or +2 (narrow skill). ... Buy "Clever" to a common level of education, Fri, 24 May 2013 03:22:49 GMT Michael Hopcroft http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26407 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26407 FAE is a very easy system to grasp. That's its charm. So why is the concept of Approaches giving me trouble? I see the six approaches to how things get done. Fri, 24 May 2013 00:21:19 GMT James Beggs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26406 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26406 Ok, Fred and everyone else, I went back and read my email again. I'm sorry. I don't know why, but this one thing really gets me worked up. and I'm not Thu, 23 May 2013 23:49:56 GMT James Beggs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26405 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26405 Hm. I actually edited my email to make it gentler, thought my original was too harsh. I guess i didn't go far enough. Sorry about that.  James Thu, 23 May 2013 22:02:17 GMT John Rudd http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26404 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26404 ... 1) "it's too game-like" is really saying "it's too mechanics minded", where "game-like" is a short-hand for "those who are focused on the game-ist mindset, Thu, 23 May 2013 21:57:08 GMT Jetan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26403 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26403 I love it. In a pyromaniacal sort of way. The other intent I've seen is "He goes up like a torch". The sequence there would be maneuver to place [soaked in Thu, 23 May 2013 21:44:17 GMT Fred Hicks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26402 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26402 James, please stop getting aggro here. It's not going to help the conversation. Let's look at what the actual gamer-intent is here. This is where I think some Thu, 23 May 2013 21:41:49 GMT James Beggs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26401 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26401 My big thing is, if I pour gasoline on someone and light them up, that isn't a smoldering jacket, and that person is going to likely die, rather quickly, Thu, 23 May 2013 21:28:19 GMT James Beggs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26400 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26400 Then why bother having attacks at all?  I completely and utterly disagree with that assessment, that its too game-like. Fate is a game. It has rules for Thu, 23 May 2013 21:10:59 GMT Jetan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26399 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26399 Saying "fate fractal" can sound a little scary. I just wanted to note that in practice, it becomes very easy to use different mechanisms to make encounters Thu, 23 May 2013 20:05:48 GMT Fred Hicks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26398 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26398 And so the errata document begins https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wvZasbKtQgmR-p8wvPcNw7jdy7QAftMmQxvMEz4gof4/edit?usp=sharing Thu, 23 May 2013 19:46:02 GMT Fred Hicks http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26397 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26397 I'll see if I can get the edits into the PDF at least. Here's what the example would read like. =========== Cynere has Athletics at Great (+4). Teran has Lore Thu, 23 May 2013 17:30:39 GMT Jeramy Ware http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26396 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26396 Fair enough, that makes total sense. I think that I'm thinking of them as "The bigger the weapon, the more quickly they are going to put you in a position to Thu, 23 May 2013 17:17:02 GMT Darren Hill http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26395 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26395 You make a good point, especially since I tend not to think of stress as damage either, until a consequence is done. Earlier editions of fate had a level of Thu, 23 May 2013 16:43:06 GMT Jonathan Wells http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26394 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FateRPG/message/26394 If you succeed with style on an attack, you can put an aspect on the target, right? So there is an easy way to implement an attack that can singe on a basic