http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/ Freeflight Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:55:25 GMT Marcus http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70003 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70003 I agree with Janet regarding the clicker sound, though I don't use a clicker myself... I, Would also like to add, for """"""my"""""" Poic.... Red bellies, Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:54:17 GMT Tom Beard http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70002 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70002 ... Our Senegal uses his clicking when he is trying to get our attention and our Sun Conure does the "chewing gum" thing when he is excited about seeing me. Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:46:55 GMT Mona http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70001 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70001 Janet wrote: "I suspect they are quite adept at differentiating between one of their own natural sounds and a clicker's click. My birds can differentiate Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:46:27 GMT Mona http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70000 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/70000 Stephanie wrote: "As an example, this is a good article that describes, in clear terms, the concept of shaping to a layman that doesn't use incorrect Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:34:24 GMT Janet Jeanpierre http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69999 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69999 ... Mona, Your Pois use a clicker to indicate their emotions???? I suspect they are quite adept at differentiating between one of their own natural sounds and Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:21:39 GMT Mona http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69998 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69998 Curtis asked: "What? A bird that was born in captivity? What does a click mean to them besides being a bridge marker?" For poicephalis, the click is akin to a Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:21:36 GMT Stephanie Jackson http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69997 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69997 As an example, this is a good article that describes, in clear terms, the concept of shaping to a layman that doesn't use incorrect terminology and does Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:51:04 GMT Stephanie Jackson http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69996 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69996 ... I have three dogs, and started down the path of positive reinforcement training with the first puppy I've ever trained all on my own. I do agility Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:27:19 GMT Curtis White http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69995 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69995 ... What? A bird that was born in captivity? What does a click mean to them besides being a bridge marker? Remember, we "teach" them the bridge marker. They Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:26:27 GMT Mona http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69994 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69994 There's more good stuff in this article...so, I am sending the link: http://www.clickertraining.com/node/154 ...and a bit more good quotes....You guys should Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:19:01 GMT Mona http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69993 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69993 ... the ... a ... it's ... Hi Stephanie: I think Karen Pryor's motives are different. I think her motives are to spread the information as fast as she can. Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:06:52 GMT sweetiemcd2001 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69992 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69992 ... First of all, to clarify, I was the one who didn't know who Murray Sidman was, not Janet. And I assure you, big mistake! But I would bet big money that he Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:06:20 GMT Dana McDonald http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69991 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69991 ... Hey, to each his own. Karen Pryor has contributed much to animal training, I'm not debating that. But the science in that article you linked is totally Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:08:24 GMT Stephanie Jackson http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69990 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69990 ... Mona, This article just confirms for me that Karen Pryor does not seem to understand the scientific definition of punishment or aversives. The problem that Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:26:32 GMT Janet Jeanpierre http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69989 http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Freeflight/message/69989 ... Why? Janet