http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/ Gifted & Talented Ass'n of Montgomery County, MD. Effective advocacy in the home school (e.g., for accelerated math) and more. Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:50:13 GMT David Lechner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20346 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20346 Hi Karen - Well, it could mean that the curriculum in elementary and middle schools has been weakened, and I think it has in some ways - or it could mean that Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:50:07 GMT GILMER http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20345 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20345 ... I have come to the belief that the "gifted education" folks should seek first "economy" and "cost effectiveness" in education in general for all students. Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:31:26 GMT Toby Silverman http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20344 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20344 In answer to your first question- no. The teacher did not understand what he was saying and doing, and neither did the other kids. Even in the Center he was Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:29:38 GMT K. Mikkelsen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20343 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20343 David Lechner wrote: From what you wrote, and I have seen this also, the students are less prepared in general for the challenging math track. Doesn't that Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:45:39 GMT David Lechner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20342 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20342 Hi Toby - I don't think there is any misunderstanding about what I said. Although you are not addressing the 5 questions or challenges I posed, which have Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:37:50 GMT Toby Silverman http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20341 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20341 At least with regard to the high school magnet programs, there is a very large misunderstanding in the note below. My son, who graduated two years ago from the Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:37:07 GMT John Hoven http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20340 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20340 Blair Ewing was a champion for all students. Some educators say they care about ?all students? as a rhetorical trick to rally opposition to gifted Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:10:21 GMT David Lechner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20339 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20339 This has been a great discussion and I thank all those that are taking the time to contribute thoughts. I'll add three notes on different practical aspects of Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:16:36 GMT George Vlasits http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20338 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20338 The problem here is that the analogy breaks down for a number of reasons. We don't have to feed any of the children at separate tables (that's what tracking Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:08:12 GMT George Vlasits http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20337 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20337 A number of the postings on this strand have addressed the issue of of how SES affects academic preparedness and what can and can't be done about this outside Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:54:39 GMT Janis Sartucci http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20336 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20336 The Washington Post will write an editorial on program cuts, but the Washington Post won't report on how Montgomery County squanders tax dollars? So how does Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:54:21 GMT ptadenise http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20335 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20335 Quick correction to my prior post: at the end, I meant to say "However, no matter what the circumstances of other families, nothing changes the fundamental Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:32:42 GMT laura.carriere http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20334 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20334 The Washington Post wrote an editorial in support of reinstating funding for the Maryland Summer Centers: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:05:02 GMT ptadenise http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20333 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20333 I'd add a couple critical points about family circumstances that I believe affect a child's achievement: The ability of a parent to support the child's Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:48:38 GMT George Vlasits http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20332 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GTAletters/message/20332 I think the issue is more the high stakes nature of the tests and their format (solely multiple choice questions, since the writing component was eliminated).