http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/ HOLDER 20 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:59:23 GMT Tom Jones http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1197 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1197 My 1982/83 Holder came on a trailer that had a 1 7/8 inch hitch. I have since then replaced it with a 2 inch hitch. I'm not at home right now but if you want Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:30:13 GMT JustShane@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1196 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1196 My zieman trailer is a bit later because my boat is hull number 212. I measure 5 on 4.5 with a ST175/80D13 (B78-13) tire. I can't be sure if it is the Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:51:27 GMT timmie993 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1195 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1195 Hi, I'm picking up my Holder 20 this week and I want to bring new tires/wheels with me. When I saw the boat I forgot to take note of some things and the boat Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:53:49 GMT JustShane@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1194 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1194 Tim, I don't think his boat is for sale but he was helping a friend sell theirs. I haven't heard much from him lately either so keep trying. The stock boat Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:13:46 GMT timmie993 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1193 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1193 Hi, I never was able to get in contact with John, does he have a boat for sale? I found a very original 1983 Holder 20, it's a stock boat with no upgrades. The Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:34:16 GMT bingo_ellie http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1192 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1192 I haven't even sailed my boat yet, but I know I'm going to have a bunch of stuff I want to carry along when racing, and as a completely stripped out boat that Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:50:36 GMT timmie993 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1191 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1191 Thanks for the tip, I just left John a message. Also thanks for the shout out from Michigan... that's just a but too far unless I get desperate. Tim Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:26:53 GMT JustShane@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1190 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1190 I second calling John! He's a good guy and has a good boat to sell. In a message dated 10/23/2009 2:23:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pacificjrny@... Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:23:13 GMT John Duthie http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1189 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1189 Call John in Central Coast area @ 805-704-1103 To: HOLDER20CLASS@yahoogroups.com From: tga6822@... Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:11:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:11:40 GMT Tom Anthony http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1188 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1188 No closeby but one in michigan, go to craiglist for michigan, then city and use muskegon, of course go to boats and then in search colum type sailboat, it will Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:07:16 GMT timmie993 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1187 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1187 Hi, I've been looking for a Holder 20 to buy. I'm in he SF Bay Area but would be willing to travel for the right boat. If you have or know of one for sale Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:56:04 GMT MICHAEL JABLONSKI http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1186 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1186 Doug:  In what kind of wind and sea conditions did you capsize the Holder?  I sailed and raced my Holder for three seasons in wind conditions of over 20 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:45:22 GMT Chris Winnard http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1185 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1185 I got rid of all the styrofoam and added float bags from APS. Tubes in the forepeak and under the cockpit, and a bow and stern bag. I would also recommend Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:20:27 GMT Doug Archbald http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1184 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1184 Tom, that is pretty impressive! As one who owned a Holder for just 3 years, I capsized it a half dozen times, including upwind capsizes from failure to blow Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:17:40 GMT Tom Jones http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1183 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOLDER20CLASS/message/1183 For what it's worth, my Holder (#106) is like it was 25 yrs ago when I bought it. Sink maybe if the knotmeter transducer blew out. But I've never ever thought