http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/ IMPETVS Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:56:38 GMT Lorenzo Sartori http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/523 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/523 All CL now moves 12U. Where is still 14 is simply because I have not updated yet. I know there is also an error on VOL7 in this sense (I will correct). Ignore Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:41:52 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/522 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/522 Lorenzo I've created a Basic Impetus list for the Cumans 1054-1394. It's in Word.doc format. Where would you like me to send it? Cheers Paul Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:34:43 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/521 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/521 ... "Steppe" list and a Attila list) and there are many changes. ... Lorenzo Understood re 1). Care to answer this one? "What is behind the 14U move of a few Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:05:32 GMT Lorenzo Sartori http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/520 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/520 go for option 1. Note that Hun list have been revised and splitted into 2 lists (a "Steppe" list and a Attila list) and there are many changes. It will be Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:25:38 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/519 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/519 Lorenzo I'd be happy to suggest which CL I believe need fixing for the sake of historic accuracy or consistency. I just need to get a complete picture of what Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:21:10 GMT Lorenzo Sartori http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/518 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/518 The original idea was to distinguish those CL able to contact from those who were skirmishers on horse. Most of lists are still under revision because some Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:24:10 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/517 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/517 Lorenzo If you prefer to stick with the 'only units with an Impetus value of 1 or more can charge' principle, then I think you need to redress some of the CL Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:59:59 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/516 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/516 Hi Lorenzo I see where you're coming from - a game balance perspective. Unfortunately it is creating historic anomalies between different armies. ie you have Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:44:18 GMT Lorenzo Sartori http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/515 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/515 Hi Paul, with some possible exception the idea is to standardize the CL as follow: CL M=12, VBU=4, I=1 or CL M=12, VBU=3, I=0 one of the possible exception may Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:21:58 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/514 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/514 Lorenzo Can you explain why in Basic Impetus some CL receive an I of 1 while others receive a 0? My understanding is that the more aggressive CL with an Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:09:35 GMT Lorenzo Sartori http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/513 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/513 to avoid some possible problems due to difference in basing. Honestly Elephants and Chariots can work perfect at 95% also with smaller bases, so if you prefer Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:02:56 GMT teethdolphin http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/512 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/512 Hi Why have the base widths of chariots etc doubled from basic to the full game? Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:12:02 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/511 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/511 There's also the option to make the crossbowmen/archers of superior quality, as some wore armour like the heavy foot. Perhaps something like this might work: 1 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:46:09 GMT Lorenzo Sartori http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/510 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/510 Ok, thank you. I will apply this when the list will be revised. cheers Lorenzo ... From: russcat9 To: IMPETVS@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:17:46 GMT russcat9 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/509 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/IMPETVS/message/509 Lorenzo A recommendation for the Qin list. Replace 1 of the Heavy Chariots with 2 Crossbows 2 T 6 3 0 1 crossbow B Reason: 1/3 of a Qin army being heavy