http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/ Infinite Monkeys Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:17:18 GMT chad http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46161 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46161 I put together a question for CustServ on this, and they basically said that they don't have an official answer on this one, and they're pushing it up the Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:05:29 GMT Timlagor http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46160 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46160 I remember now. We decided that the 'free action' text referred only to *commanding* the fly and not its actual movement (which works as normal for a mount): Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:47:55 GMT Timlagor http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46159 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46159 I think it was more a case of deciding that the wording wasn't clear enough to make it override the general. In addition fly 20' for free really isn't all that Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:47:31 GMT Tom Bollis http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46158 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46158 Explanation and why it's wrong: Some people don't read everything relevant, with specific overriding general. 1) General mount rules - Rider and mount share on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:02:50 GMT chad http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46157 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46157 First of all, thanks for getting me to look at this again, and for responding so quickly. ... Which suggests a middle ground of fly 10: your minor, mount's Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:48:18 GMT Timlagor http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46156 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46156 I don't remember clearly but looking at that I imagine our interpretation was that "normal allotment of actions" for a mount is 'standard+move+minor shared Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:46:01 GMT chad http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46155 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46155 Over on LFRCharDiscussion, someone suggested that they had an interpretation of the Ebony Fly that didn't allow the rider to use it to fly 10 as a free action Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:28:14 GMT Sithobi1 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46154 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46154 It's a weapon enchantment. AV2. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:28:54 GMT Myron http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46153 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46153 Is "Farbond" a magic item enhancement? If so, can someone state the source? Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:36:09 GMT chad http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46152 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46152 ... Good catch on the Parrying Dagger. The Farbond idea is a good one, and cheap. Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:59:14 GMT Sithobi1 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46151 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46151 Take a Farbond Spiked Shield and it'll work. Parrying Daggers aren't heavy thrown, so that won't work without Farbond. ... [Non-text portions of this message Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:58:00 GMT chad http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46150 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46150 Either of the reasons that you mention make it clearly not work in my mind, but you might find a sympathetic GM now and then. I might be lenient about the Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:38:02 GMT Myron http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46149 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46149 I really want to build this into my shield fighter, but I fear that rules lawyers will scream "foul." I don't think it's overpowered - I think it's flavorful Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:52:16 GMT chad http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46148 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46148 ... I have never seen this happen, but I could not construct a better argument than ``really? that seems overly harsh'' if a judge ruled that it took up Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:18:27 GMT Sithobi1 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46147 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Infinite_Monkeys/message/46147 Farbond Spiked Shield works. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]