http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/ H.H. "Dynamite" Payson: Instant Boats Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:51:05 GMT alan_speakman123 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/321 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/321 Sun, 18 May 2008 20:36:17 GMT Kristine Bennett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/320 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/320 I have used a brace to drive screws as well I grew up around the fishing and work boats here in Washington and Alaska. Also drove a few square nails as well. I Sun, 18 May 2008 20:36:02 GMT rick barnes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/319 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/319 I used to use soap to wax with, but my mother gave me a big block of paraffin.  Stuff works great.  I use it to dress the bottom of my planes also.  I think Sun, 18 May 2008 04:59:42 GMT alan_speakman123 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/318 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/318 Hi Rick, Right on about using the brace! When my wife and I build a boat, we often use a brace... It's almost as fast as a cordless drill. Also, we wax the Sun, 18 May 2008 04:35:14 GMT rick barnes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/317 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/317 A year ago I would not have touched a slotted screw.  I got a big box that belonged to my grandfather and figured I needed to learn to use them rather than Sat, 17 May 2008 20:42:53 GMT Kristine Bennett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/316 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/316 At times being traditional is way over rated. I have also seen the Torx or star drive to be the best to drive with power tools and you seldom strip the head Sat, 17 May 2008 04:48:13 GMT Gene Tehansky http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/315 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/315 Rick, Don't let your desire for a Traditional Look go to extremes. Straight slot screws can be a curse. Square drive is the way to go, and easier to find. Fri, 16 May 2008 20:18:13 GMT rick barnes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/314 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/314 I wasn't really worried about the cost as much as the availability.  I'm with you on value of materials.  I figure my effort is worth the investment in Fri, 16 May 2008 17:40:08 GMT alan_speakman123 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/313 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/313 Thomas, Excellent info... (I always wondered about metals in fasteners...) Thanks, Alan ... Fri, 16 May 2008 03:33:09 GMT Kristine Bennett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/312 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/312 Rick you may be in fresh water but when you add water to the wood, you still have electrolis do to the PH of the wood it's self. A lot of people don't know Fri, 16 May 2008 03:32:49 GMT Ned Asplundh http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/311 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/311 Brass screws are usually too soft. Thu, 15 May 2008 21:38:59 GMT rick barnes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/310 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/310 Thank you for your help.  I'll look into some silicon bronze, and monel (although I'm not familiar with the latter).   Rick ... From: Thomas Hamernik Thu, 15 May 2008 18:13:12 GMT Thomas Hamernik http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/309 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/309 From Dave Gerr's "Elements of Boat Strength for Builders, Designers and Owners" (my wife gave it to me for Christmas - just my kind of book!): Hull fasteners, Thu, 15 May 2008 07:46:26 GMT Rick http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/308 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/308 I live by Lake Michigan, and use my boats only in fresh water. Most of the time builders suggest silicon bronze wood screws. Is this because they are Sat, 10 May 2008 22:09:51 GMT alan_speakman123 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/307 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Instantboats/message/307 Can you see it now? Alan