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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20655</link>
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      <description>Mike, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Your first point assumes that Joseph believed what the Bible says about false prophets. It&#39;s a tricky thing to</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:24:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>flournoy@...</dc:creator>
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      <description>Rob, First off, I doubt anything could have overwhelmed Joseph&#39;s fear of death, especially if he did know himself to be a false prophet.  You have an article</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:08:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>faithhasitsreasons</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20653</link>
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      <description>Mike, You had asserted that Joseph died as a martyr; I had argued that he did not. Now you concede the point but assert that it isn&#39;t &quot;the real question&quot;! It&#39;s</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:43:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>flournoy@...</dc:creator>
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      <description>Rob, You bring up some good points.  Maybe you are right that Joseph doesn&#39;t count as a martyr, and was just assassinated.  However, not ONE of your points</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:21:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
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      <description>Mike, You had written: &lt;&lt; Assuming it was all fiction, how do you explain Joseph&#39;s martyrdom?  I mean, what motivation could he possibly have that was more</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:37:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>flournoy@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20650</link>
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      <description>Rob, I don&#39;t suppose you care to elaborate?</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:11:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20649</link>
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      <description>Michael, You wrote: &lt;&lt; Assuming it was all fiction, how do you explain Joseph&#39;s martyrdom?  I mean, what motivation could he possibly have that was more</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:38:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>flournoy@...</dc:creator>
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      <description>Rob, ... My reply:  Assuming it was all fiction, how do you explain Joseph&#39;s martyrdom?  I mean, what motivation could he possibly have that was more important</description>
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      <title>Re: The lost pages, evil conspirators, and demonic explanations</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:50:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20647</link>
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      <description>Linda, You wrote: &lt;&lt; What I, IMHO, believe is the role Satan is playing is to tell YOU that we are a heresy that he inspired, causing you and others like you,</description>
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      <title>Re: The lost pages, evil conspirators, and demonic explanations</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:49:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20646</link>
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      <description>Mike, You wrote: &lt;&lt; Wow. Ok.. so I know you two are having a lot of fun talking about Satanic influences over religion, but isn&#39;t that where logical sense</description>
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      <title>Re: Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:40:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20645</link>
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      <description>Mike, You wrote: &lt;&lt; Here&#39;s a question for you.  What exactly is your stance on Joseph Smith?  Ok.. I know your stance, but more specifically what is your</description>
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      <title>Re: The lost pages, evil conspirators, and demonic explanations</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:04:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>rainbow_linda1957</dc:creator>
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      <description>... and feels enough like the real thing as to &quot;be convincing.&quot; So heresies talk warmly about Jesus Christ, God, the Holy Spirit, faith, love, good works, and</description>
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      <title>The lost pages, evil conspirators, and demonic explanations</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:52:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Sam Richardson</dc:creator>
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      <description>Rob, ... But I seriously doubt he can put love and enlightenment into those spiritual experiences. The Bible only says that he can appear as a being of light.</description>
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      <title>Re: The lost pages, evil conspirators, and demonic explanations</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>flournoy@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDS-Debate/message/20642</link>
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      <description>Wow. Ok.. so I know you two are having a lot of fun talking about Satanic influences over religion, but isn&#39;t that where logical sense begins to take a</description>
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      <title>Joseph Smith Question</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:31:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>flournoy@...</dc:creator>
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      <description>Rob, Here&#39;s a question for you.  What exactly is your stance on Joseph Smith?  Ok.. I know your stance, but more specifically what is your stance on the first</description>
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