http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/ The Value Capture/Land Tax Idea Factory Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:40:05 GMT Scott Bergeson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7619 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7619 Quoting roy_langston1 (Roy Langston) on Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:01:40 -0000: ___Scott___ increase its supply only via a very intrusive and continual census. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:45:46 GMT Dan Sullivan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7618 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7618 ... "As the exemption applies to persons, not land, and is equal for all resident citizens and equally applicable to all land, it cannot be capitalized as land Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:02:01 GMT roy_langston1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7617 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7617 ... Sorry, I hate it when people get my name wrong, too. What, they can't hear the difference between "Roy" and "Ray"? ... Correct. Having their liberty Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:09:37 GMT roy_langston1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7616 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7616 ... You're right, I should have said that unlike a homestead exemption, the proposed exemption _ATTACHES_ to persons, not land. It _APPLIES_ to the tax on the Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:25:11 GMT Dan Sullivan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7615 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7615 ... If there is no tax on persons, saying that an exemption applies to the person, rather than to the land the person holds, is nonsensical. The exemption must Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:25:09 GMT Dan Sullivan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7614 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7614 ... I look at it this way. Anyone deprived of land without compensation has been robbed of far more than what we give to poor people. Grousing about food Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:51:30 GMT Scott Bergeson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7613 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7613 Quoting roy_langston1 (Roy Langston) on Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:56:02 -0000: ___Roy___ ... Please correct your spell checker's dictionary. My surname has an 's', Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:13:55 GMT Scott Bergeson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7612 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7612 Quoting Wyn Achenbaum on Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:03:53 -0500: ___Wyn___ .. tend to depress Land PRICES, not Land VALUES! An important distinction, and if WE can't Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:04:45 GMT Wyn Achenbaum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7611 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7611 ... tend to depress Land PRICES, not Land VALUES! An important distinction, and if WE can't keep it straight, how can we expect others to? David Reed wrote: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:12:27 GMT roy_langston1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7610 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7610 ... Assuming the latter was as politically feasible as the former. A high LVT that is implemented because it is accompanied by a flat, universal personal Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:13:40 GMT roy_langston1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7609 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7609 ... I don't believe in welfare or the welfare state. Welfare is a program that violates the rights of some for the unearned benefit of others, and thus fosters Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:34:53 GMT Bernard Rooney http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7608 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7608 ... Harry, that is ideological, or fundamentalist. Yes of course we should 'end the conditions', but we must also believe in welfare and the welfare state. The Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:31:00 GMT David Reed http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7607 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7607 Can well understand how a high LVT rate and universal exemptions would tend to depress land values.But a high percentage LVT rate and no exemptions would lower Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:56:09 GMT roy_langston1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7606 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7606 ... Please explain how land values could be high -- i.e., why more than one person would be willing to pay a lot to obtain ownership of useful land -- if the Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:27:00 GMT Harry Pollard http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7605 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LandCafe/message/7605 FYI Don't believe in food stamps and similar welfare. Do believe in ending the conditions that lead to this situation. Harry **** Agence France Press November