http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/ LargerChurch Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:03:23 GMT Paul Austin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1840 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1840 I would request that you take me off the e-mail list. Our congregation has approved to depart from the ELCA and this transition will be completed over the Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:47:43 GMT Jim Magelssen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1839 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1839 We have three pastors on our staff. Any honorarium that any one of us receives, we divide evenly between us. At the end of the year, each of us has received Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:52:14 GMT Norm Wahl http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1838 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1838 The pastors vary in practice at Bethel. I receive anything that people give, but I always send a letter of thanks saying that I don't keep the gifts since I Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:31:23 GMT jwmatt@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1837 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1837 Les, et.al., At Grace in Apple Valley, the funeral directors all charge the family $150 for clergy, and we get a check from the funeral home on the day of the Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:28:35 GMT David Housholder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1836 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1836 Since I don't take a fixed salary (most of my income comes from outside the church), I always say yes graciously. I let members know clearly upfront that I Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:37:24 GMT Peter Geisendorfer-Lindgren http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1835 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1835 That sounds pleasant. I think I'm going to start using my honoraria to take Judy out for dinner at some nice restaurant. Peter Geisendorfer-Lindgren Senior Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:31:50 GMT Pastor Sanford Mitchell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1834 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1834 Hi Les, I have found that it is a matter of geography. In the south nothing is given or expected. In Ohio people expect to give it. Since we have many Roman Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:20:16 GMT Les Svendsen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1833 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1833 Since we all responded so quickly to a question about publishing salaries, I'd be interested in your thoughts on this. My colleagues and I had a discussion Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:30:00 GMT Paul Ulring http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1832 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1832 We do an audit every year and have for the last six years; it was never done before, just a "review." It is worth the cost, done by the same Indianapolis firm Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:21:29 GMT P. Kevin Murphy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1831 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1831 They never are [tithers], Steve! _____ From: LargerChurch@yahoogroups.com [mailto:LargerChurch@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephan Turnbull Sent: Tuesday, Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:13:22 GMT P. Kevin Murphy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1830 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1830 I agree completely with Dan and his congregation's approach. What some people call "transparency" is nothing but "old line thinking" about the pastor. "Lord, Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:01:13 GMT David Schulte http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1829 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1829 We have finally retrained the church that's it's okay to NOT having everyone's salary published. It was creating problems in staff relationships and makes it Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:57:22 GMT David Housholder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1828 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1828 We don't have salaries at all. Non-profit-compliant pay-as-you-go. I actually fly all over the place helping non-profits implement this. A good way to Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:53:42 GMT Bonnie Wilcox http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1827 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1827 We also publish personnel expenses as a whole, with the ability to review individual salaries upon request to our financial manager or me. We've also been Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:11:02 GMT jkoneal@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1826 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LargerChurch/message/1826 I agree with Les.  Our individual salaries are not published in the annual report but a separate sheet with that information is available in the church office