http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/ Moderated discussion of Irish history & archaeology 1000-1600AD. Topics include archaeology, history, literature, law etc. Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:11:49 GMT shinelinda http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1333 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1333 Evening class in Trinity College Dublin for people with an interest in history or archaeology Medieval Castles: Symbols of power in the Irish landscape Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:10:50 GMT mlcummins@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1332 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1332 Turlough of the Wine (father of this Eoghan) Niall Garbh Hugh Roe Hugh Dubh Manus Sir Hugh Red Hugh O'Donnell (the famous one) So Turlough was Red Hugh's Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:41:19 GMT dmschlegel@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1331 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1331 The source of that note on the family of Torloch an Fhiona (died 1422) is the O Donnell Genealogies, edited by Rev. Paul Walsh, published in Analecta Hibernica Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:41:04 GMT Ted Meehan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1330 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1330 Michael, a chara, Thanks for the info. Can you direct me to its source? Also, I am assuming that the "Eoghan"men tioned was an O'Donnell. It would be Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:29:20 GMT mlcummins@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1329 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1329 ... Abbot O ... This Eoghan is the child of Turlough of the Wine O'Donnell and "a daughter of O Miadhachain". This Eoghan died without an heir, so, there ends Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:10:59 GMT mlcummins@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1328 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1328 I'll look that up but I'm pretty sure the O Miadachan (sp?) in question is a mother of one or two of Turlough of the Wine O'Donnell's children. Something at Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:32:28 GMT Civil Rights http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1327 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1327 A Chara, I am forwarding your request for info to the O'Doherty Family Research Association in the USA & Spain.. Regards-Fionnbarra-Doire/Derry 2009/9/2 Ted Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:34:22 GMT Ted Meehan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1326 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1326 A chairde, I came across a snippet of info while searching for a book in Google books. The little piece of data seems to indicate a connection between the Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:48:23 GMT Francisco J. Gonzalez http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1325 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1325 Hi Kathleen, The round objects appear to be the hats from the gentlemen in question. In the same woodcut, if Iou look at the trumpeters at the head of the Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:48:22 GMT Kevin Kittilson (WCCA) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1324 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1324 I believe they have doffed their caps and are holding them by the brims From: Late-Gaelic-Ireland@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Late-Gaelic-Ireland@yahoogroups.com] Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:58:23 GMT mlcummins@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1323 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1323 ... Their hats. Michael Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:37:03 GMT gmcdavid@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1322 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1322 ... I think the "breastplate" is actually supposed to represent a shield, and the illustrator had trouble showing it correctly. Such shields were carried by Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:36:51 GMT Kevin Kittilson (WCCA) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1321 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1321 Francisco, These men are "prickers" or "Northern horse", light cavalry armed with a light lance or javelin and sometimes also a pistol. They frequently Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:36:26 GMT kquasey@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1320 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1320 Francisco, Thank you for posting the link. Do you know what the circular objects are in  the hands of the men welcoming Sidney back?  Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:16:08 GMT Francisco J. Gonzalez http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1319 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Late-Gaelic-Ireland/message/1319 Questions re: 16th century English cavalry in Ireland   Greetings, I am hoping to obtain more information regarding how accurate or plausible is the