http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/ MADip-L Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:08:37 GMT douglas http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6285 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6285 I just wanted to remind everyone that the deadline for submissions to Diplomacy World #108 is January 1st, so there's only about a month left. The theme this Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:10:42 GMT douglas http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6284 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6284 Eternal Sunshine #35 is now available for download. You can find the pdf version in the ES Yahoo group at: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:41:13 GMT Ron Severson http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6283 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6283 Melissa - Thanks for your quick reply. I'd like Option B, please - where I only receive emails from you about games or tournaments. Thanks so much for your Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:03:25 GMT Call, Melissa J. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6282 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6282 Hi Ron, The MADip messages are able to be read at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L You do not need a membership to read messages, only to post. If Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:54:26 GMT Ron Severson http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6281 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6281 Melissa - Thank you for including me in the group's message board. I haven't yet been able to swing my schedule to be able to play, but hope springs eternal. I Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:31:08 GMT David Norman http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6280 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6280 David, ... If you want to view it like that, that's your choice. I wrote it as short and succinct without the hundreds of words of additional waffle you added Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:33:42 GMT Andrew Goff http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6279 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6279 In my opinion, metagaming is bad AND inherent to Diplomacy. I think of it a lot like fraud in business. It will always exist, but the systems used should make Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:34:42 GMT David Maletsky http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6278 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6278 Andrew et alia: Do you really think "metagaming" is bad, or is it simply a natural element intrinsic to Diplomacy? I've heard it bashed a lot since I came Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:29:22 GMT David Maletsky http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6277 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6277 Jon: Edi Birsan & I had this discussion awhile back. Basically, you pick your poison; as you've noted, there are advantages to giving eliminated players the Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:40:00 GMT Melissa http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6276 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6276 Well it looks like we got 7 people. As I said I'm not going to be able to actively recruit this year, I've got presentations to write and places to be, but Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:24:20 GMT Andrew Goff http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6275 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6275 I am going to specifically not comment on any one scoring system. That is your problem. ;) There are, to my knowledge, three schools of thought on the detail Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:55:11 GMT Jonathan Hill http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6274 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6274 @ the Davids Bob Holt made an interesting twist to Malesky's system where if you became eliminated you received zero points. (I'll use David's numbers to make Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:57:29 GMT David Maletsky http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6273 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6273 David: First of all, let me say that I find having to respond to flippant comments with a snide, backhanded undertone truly distasteful. Second, no one has Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:56:08 GMT Conrad Woodring http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6272 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6272 Sure am. Still space if anyone wants to help out. ... _________________________________ Conrad Woodring www.conradwoodring.com Gsm 1: +1-716-903-4523 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:29:25 GMT David Norman http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6271 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/MADip-L/message/6271 ... Where as if a system allows the same centre to be worth 1 point to some players, 501 points to some players, and 1001 points to some players, in the same