http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/ A mailing list devoted to the fine ancients rules Might of Arms - by Bob Bryant. Topics include rules questions, new rules and Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:21:27 GMT Larry http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6598 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6598 ... Micheal, I'm thinking of using the ECW variant in the Files section and diddling with it. Would like to know what you are doing. However, tis a holiday Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:58:09 GMT Michael Manning http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6597 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6597 ... Sorry for the slow reply. Yes, I have Poles and friends have Turks. I also have 30YW Imperialists and Swedes and English Civil War. I'm contemplating using Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:20:19 GMT Larry http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6596 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6596 Anybody out there have a later ren. variant? Poles vs Turks, Spanish vs Dutch etc.? Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:45:44 GMT LORNE FOGARTY http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6595 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6595 You caused no confusion at all. I don't need any help doing that to myself. ;) I recall some years ago reading a couple of good attempts at a historical Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:23:13 GMT Bill Cira http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6594 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6594 I may be mistaken about the title of the series. I think it was published in the UK as "Saxon Stories" and "Saxon Tales" in the U.S. I hope I did not cause Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:27:29 GMT LORNE FOGARTY http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6593 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6593 I haven't managed getting around to the Saxon Stories yet, but will keep my eyes peeled. Thanks for the tip. This sort of co-ordinated effort between soldiers Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:22:20 GMT RG1066@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6592 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6592 Those are good books with good descrptions of shieldwall combat. Most accounts of dark ages infantry melee combat I have read whether historical or in novels Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:54:41 GMT Bill Cira http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6591 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6591 Since you guys are discussing shield walls I have to jump in and mention Bernard Cornwell's series of of historical novels called "The Saxon Stories" which I Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:29:26 GMT LORNE FOGARTY http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6590 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6590 I think you have some good points here. Cheers LF ... From: Phil Sherlock To: Might-of-Arms@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:11:54 GMT Phil Sherlock http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6589 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6589 It is also of value to boost the morale of the troops, as well as being a daunting prospect for the enemy to attack a solid line of protected infantry. The Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:34:31 GMT LORNE FOGARTY http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6588 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6588 I too see it primarily as defensive, although I don't see why 'non-linear' formations such as the wedge already mentioned couldn't be used with overlapping Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:23:40 GMT LUCASWILLEN05@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6587 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6587 I talked to som Viking re-enactors at Derby last year. Remember that your typical Dark Age army (eg Saxons) was made up of the King's/important nobleman's Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:10:47 GMT RG1066@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6586 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6586 My impression of a classical phalanx is that it is formed of drilled troops capable of some maneuvering while maintaining this formation. My impression of Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:39:25 GMT William Robinson http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6585 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6585 I have always been under the impression that shield wall was more of a defensive formation when compared to the classical phalanx. bryantbob@... Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:04:57 GMT bryantbob@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6584 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Might-of-Arms/message/6584 I have some questions for Dark Age enthusiasts: Who were the warriors who formed a shield wall? What were the chief characteristics of the shield wall,