http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/ Mormon_Defense Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:04:00 GMT Hugh EATON http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3761 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3761 To: Mormon_Defense@yahoogroups.com From: mnarich@... Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:43:25 +0000 Subject: RE: [Mormon_Defense] P.S. (mnarich) P.S. Adam and Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:44:32 GMT mnarich@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3760 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3760 P.S. Adam and Eve's method of procreation came AFTER the fall. We know nothing about how physical bodies were created before then--except, the scriptures (and Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:34:41 GMT mnarich@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3759 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3759 Hugh, My response had nothing to do with fearfulness of the world, but rather, confidence in God's power and in His word. The Book of Mormon indicates that Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:17:10 GMT Hugh EATON http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3758 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3758 mnarich, I must disagree my friend. Is there any reason why God the Father could not have literally had sex with Mary? Allow me to explain, if I may..God is Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:19:32 GMT mnarich@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3757 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3757 The notion of God literally having sexual relations with Mary is refuted by the Book of Mormon doctrine of a virgin birth (1 Nephi 11:20, 2 Nephi 17:14, Alma Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:54:07 GMT sadatoni http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3756 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3756 ... I wonder if he enjoys looking like an idiot? I'm floored by some of the outright fabrications that he uses that have been around and well refuted for Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:09:49 GMT flournoy@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3755 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3755 The following is found in the CARM website under the heading: Mormonism in a nutshell. First impressions?? Mormonism teaches that God used to be a man on Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:34:32 GMT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3754 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3754 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Mormon_Defense group. File : /Letters Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:55:49 GMT mnarich@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3752 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3752 Michael F., I'm not sure whether God literally gave Satan permission, but I'm pretty sure Job did--both in his pre-mortal acceptance of the plan of salvation, Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:05:44 GMT flournoy@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3751 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3751 Michael, ... My thoughts: I agree that it technically was Satan who afflicted Job, but if God gave Satan leave to afflict Job, isn't it the same as Him doing Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:56:35 GMT mnarich@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3750 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3750 Just a note: According to Ether 12 it is Christ who makes weak things strong, not us. Otherwise, how would our weakness make us humble? If a trial can teach us Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:04:44 GMT mnarich@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3749 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3749 Technically, it was Satan afflicting Job, not God. According to Job's friend Elihu, God "will not afflict" (Job 37:23). That said, there is evidence that God Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:46:54 GMT sadatoni http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3748 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3748 Isn't this also #3? Jas 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:42:03 GMT Hugh EATON http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3747 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3747 To: Mormon_Defense@yahoogroups.com From: flournoy@... Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:36:36 +0000 Subject: [Mormon_Defense] Another Question (flournoy) Sorry, Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:14:57 GMT justinodhans982000 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3746 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon_Defense/message/3746 Other thoughts. God does give us things to help us grow, he does send us challenges, not temptations, as that is not his way. Rarely if ever do I see any