Myopiafree2 at Yahoo! Groups http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/ Myopiafree2 Depth-of-Field, Measured at 0.3 diopters. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:54:52 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3873 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3873 DOFDiopt.txt The Depth-of-Field of the natural eye is judged to be 0.3 diopters. Here is the analysis and numbers: Poster # 135 COMPARISON OF DEPTH OF FOCUS Documents on The Effects of a "Confined" Enviroment the eye's STATE Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:11:51 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3872 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3872 This is from a paper published by Dr. William Ludlam. 37. Schwartz, I., and Sandberg, N., "The Effect of Time in Submarine Service on Vision, " Report No. The beautiful Scheherazade Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:48:54 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3871 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3871 Truth, (of Science and beauty) are in the mind of the beholder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr1c7Xa1AqM&feature=fvw Enjoy, Otis Judy -- you don't seem to understand that the eye is DYNAMIC. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:35:04 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3870 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3870 Dear Judy, Thanks for your "not science" input. But, in fact the word "emmetropization" is an artifact of a truly BAD concept of the natural eye's behavior. I Re: Second-opinion analysis of the NATURAL eye's proven behavior. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:28:03 GMT drjudy65 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3869 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3869 ... You don't seem to understand emmetropization. I suggest you read some of Wildsoet's work on this topic. Judy Second-opinion analysis of the NATURAL eye's proven behavior. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:52:32 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3868 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3868 RefState.txt Science: The SCIENCE of Refractive STATE change with applied lens. Subject: More majority-opionion statements by Judy about refractive STATES and Original Greek Dance Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:10:14 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3867 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3867 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQm7RFn0mlM&feature=related Enjoy, Remarks about Lasik by an OD Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:28:16 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3861 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3861 For your interest. Let me add, that if the person is WISE, and will start with the plus BEFORE the minus -- there would be NO NEED for Lasik. From a person who insists (before any science) that therer are NO si Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:37 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3860 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3860 Craig> You seem to be saying that because no other treatments are available, then understanding minus lenses and any possible side effects is not necessary -- Surf's Up -- Misirlou Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:44:50 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3859 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3859 Enjoy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z9INRmOe9o&feature=related Otis Re: Does the NATURAL EYE change its STATE from plus to minus? Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:24:39 GMT drjudy65 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3858 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3858 ... If you are going to continue to put words in my mouth, please provide a link to the post where I said it. Otherwise, again I am forced to say: I DIDN'T SAY Why we love the minus lens -- and why we ignore the secondary effect Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:50:34 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3857 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3857 It is very easy to do what is in this video. It is very difficult to do a "deeper" scientific analysis and choose to work on a PREVENTIVE method. Here is one Does the NATURAL EYE change its STATE from plus to minus? Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:50:42 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3856 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3856 Subject: NATRUAL eye prevention. Re: Keepting the refractive STATE of the natural eye SLIGHTLY POSTIVE to avoid a negative STATE. Judy effectively argues that Re: Judy -- Your reponse is "I did not say that"...to everything. Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:00:32 GMT drjudy65 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3855 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3855 ... Perhaps you should be more carefull when you cut and paste to make sure you attribute my words to me, then I won't need to say that. And when you state Re: A SCIENTIFIC "Thought Experiment" -- for your thoughtful review. Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:11:14 GMT Otis http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3854 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Myopiafree2/message/3854 Dear Frans, Subject: Science and STATISTICS. Yes, thanks, In fact, you can have cataract surgery, and produce (mechanically) a negative STATE for your eyes --