http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/ for those seeking sovereignty Tue, 14 May 2013 06:38:07 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2103 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2103 It's Not Hypocrisy Though the servant government, instituted to secure rights, has no delegated power to legislate for or against the practice of religion, Mon, 13 May 2013 17:51:27 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2102 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2102 Republican Form - uniquely American Most Americans are unaware that they are blessed with a most unique form of government. "The United States shall guarantee Mon, 13 May 2013 16:44:27 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2101 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2101 Short Memory Span If you wondered how only after a brief span of 4 generations (1933 - 2013, 80 years), Americans could completely forget their history and Fri, 10 May 2013 03:16:38 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2100 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2100 DISCERNING DICTIONARY - for those who seek liberation from lifelong indoctrination The purpose is to consolidate and clarify terminology often skewed by Sun, 05 May 2013 19:04:40 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2099 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2099 Pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, government has two jobs: 1. Secure rights, and 2. Govern those who consent. Anything more is suspect. Anything Fri, 03 May 2013 21:23:59 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2098 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2098 ...   ... Those who did not consent would only be offered the service of government in securing rights. Ergo, the servant governments were formed by those who Fri, 03 May 2013 18:58:39 GMT Harry James http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2097 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2097 I am a bit confused as to what you are saying regarding these two distinct unions i.e. the Perpetual Union and the More Perfect Union. To "modify" means to Thu, 02 May 2013 20:48:06 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2096 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2096 Points of disagreement - 1. Since the governments in the united States were based on compact, only the parties to said compacts could make them or amend them. Thu, 02 May 2013 20:34:15 GMT jfenncpa http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2095 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2095 I agree that there is no secession in a perpetual union. I do not presently agree that the perpetual union created by the Articles of Confederation was Thu, 02 May 2013 09:56:22 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2094 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2094 Double check your state's constitution and laws for mention of private property, domicile, and so forth. See these: Thu, 02 May 2013 06:21:51 GMT Michael heller http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2093 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2093 I bought a house paid for and the owner gave me a quick claim deed and told me to file it  how do I keep it so its private property or were do I find the Wed, 01 May 2013 19:06:47 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2092 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2092 ADDENDUM  [] Citizenship is voluntary [] Participation in FICA is voluntary Combined, those voluntary acts are behind 99.99999% of the "tyranny" most Wed, 01 May 2013 18:52:05 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2091 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2091 "Sovereign Citizens" aren't sovereign Why do we know that "Sovereign Citizens" aren't sovereign? Though it is true that Americans have the potential to be Wed, 01 May 2013 17:22:33 GMT Jet Graphics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2090 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2090 Apparently there is some confusion with "persons liable" (subject citizens) and sovereign Americans (private people). "But, indeed, no private person has a Wed, 01 May 2013 17:09:43 GMT Troy Duwayne, Barclay http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2089 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NASP/message/2089 Jetgraphics, If there is no right to secession in 1861 or in 2013 then we all live in a totally tyrannical dictatorship run by 535 corporate tyrants. You have