http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/ NMAA Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:18:43 GMT johnno http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32721 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32721 In Sydney you even need cars for the CBD half the time! The trains will stop for no apparent reason in the middle of a tunnel, and you'll be left in the dark Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:45:08 GMT Gavin Goeldner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32720 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32720 It's only slightly more sensible response than you'd expect from Govco, Although I would hope otherwise, it still seems that Nichols is of the opinion that Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:52:06 GMT Michael and Heather Lane http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32719 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32719 This could be interesting! From Saturday 19 July Sun Herald EXCLUSIVE: LAWLESS drivers will be asked how they should be punished in a novel new strategy Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:14:52 GMT Daniel Calvert http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32718 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32718 Well done Mark. I have not had the opportunity to voice my opinion on this to the politicians concerned, glad someone has, I will put something together when I Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:12:09 GMT Chris Rumble http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32717 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32717 Well who else has a better idea of how bad the public transport system is! Chris _____ From: NMAA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NMAA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:10:53 GMT Chris Rumble http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32716 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32716 I always say James, that I love cars - but as a mass-transit system they suck! The problem is that in this country. 1. You do need a car for most non-cbd Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:08:37 GMT Chris Rumble http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32715 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32715 This borders on the bizarre. Why have additional taxes due to the ETS and the lower fuel levies to reduce the next impost to nil. Either they want to increase Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:51:25 GMT mark http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32714 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32714 There are some sane politicians Subject: RE: Red light camera upgrade to speed camera'sDate: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:23:57 +1000From: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:28:09 GMT Marshall Peters http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32713 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32713 If you look at South Australia Guvmint cars. There are 13,000 now........6 years ago there were less than 1,000- They sit on acres of asphalt all Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:07:51 GMT James Ward http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32712 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32712 "It's the single-occupant private cars that are the enemy of the city." I agree with this statement. Look at the sheer AREA taken up by roads in and around the Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:51:51 GMT o4nik8u2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32711 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32711 Paradise for pedestrians? Not necessarily! Sounds more like hell for everyone else though. "It's the single-occupant private cars that are the enemy of the Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:10:06 GMT Graham Pryor http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32710 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32710 http://www.smh.com.au/editorial/index.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1 Climate change: Labor wilts in the heat July 17, 2008 IT IS a slow but pragmatic start. Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:07:20 GMT Graham Pryor http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32709 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32709 http://www.smh.com.au/news/energy-smart/in-the-age-of-high-petrol-prices-rea lity-check-on-hybrids/2008/07/16/1216162960019.html?page=fullpage#contentSwa p1 In Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:32:16 GMT johnno http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32708 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32708 For those of you who know Sydney there are two things to point out. Firstly, about 60% of city workers have taken or been given holidays this week so it's Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:15:15 GMT Graham Pryor http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32707 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NMAA/message/32707 http://www.smh.com.au/news/world-youth-day/only-abstinence-can-save-drivers- from-traffic-hell/2008/07/15/1215887631166.html Only abstinence can save drivers