http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/ NavWarGames Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:22:54 GMT zonker5001 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33992 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33992 ... And a very big THANK YOU Mark. This is what I expected and was my default position. It's nice to see that there is some evidence that this is correct. Of Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:02:05 GMT mark.hinds http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33991 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33991 The "Warship 2008" annual states that "With hostilities imminent, the East Asiatic Squadron exchanged its livery of light beige ('wet canvas') hull and yellow Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:01:05 GMT zonker5001 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33990 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33990 ... Thank you very much. Mal's work is very good and I thank him for making it available. However I was asking about von Spee's squadron specifically. While Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:59:57 GMT zonker5001 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33989 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33989 ... Thank you very much. Mal's work is very good and I thank him for making it available. However I was asking about von Spee's squadron specifically. While Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:39:39 GMT Frank Waugh http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33988 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33988   Hope this helps. Frank     Colour Schemes of WW1 Warships Mal Wright posted this in Naval, Wargaming on February 20th, 2008 The following article is still Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:52:00 GMT zonker5001 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33987 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33987 ... Great. Now were they in overall grey or were they in a similar colour scheme to the High Seas Fleet at home? If just in overall grey, they are a colonial Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:25:55 GMT Brandon Musler http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33986 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33986 Byron wrote: "Technically speaking, therefore, any ship either fully or partially fitted with oil firing could produce a smoke screen." And in a tactical game Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:18:50 GMT brooksindy http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33985 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33985 Don't forget that PRINCE OF WALES made funnel smoke during her disengagement from BISMARCK at Denmark Strait. During the 1930s the US tested smokescreens laid Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:14:22 GMT brooksindy http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33984 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33984 Given that this was what, three months after the outbreak of the war, why would anyone even *think* that the ships were still in "colonial" colors? Just for Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:40:19 GMT zonker5001 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33983 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33983 How were they painted at Coronel? Were they in the Pacific colonial paint scheme of white hulls and ocher upper works or were they painted over in grey? Some Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:36:42 GMT byronfangel http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33982 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33982 One point to keep in mind is that the employment of tactical smoke screens at sea had to await the adoption of oil-fired boilers, which could deliver truly Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:23:48 GMT brucew http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33981 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33981 A large and virtually continuous pall of smoke was central to Adm Vian's strategy in the 2nd Battle of Sirte, when designated groups of smoke layers kept a Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:09:25 GMT Lou Coatney http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33980 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33980 Smoke could/can:   1. Reduce gunnery accuracy of both a firing and target ship,   sometimes enabling small ships to close for torpedo attack.   2. Prevent Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:04:36 GMT byronfangel http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33979 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33979 The first intentional use of smoke as a tactical device that I have run across was a USN battle exercise in 1912. Byron ... From: NavWarGames@yahoogroups.com Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:46:42 GMT tdowns3@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33978 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/NavWarGames/message/33978 I would add: in what year/war was smoke first used with any frequency? WW1/ Tom Downs