http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/ OriginTalk Discussion Group Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:50:36 GMT Pasha http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19099 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19099 Geobub writes:  Once again, I did not think I needed to be more clear. Evolution was created with the intent to counter the Judeo-Christian creation account. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:49:00 GMT VictorM http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19098 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19098 ... We simply do not know about the sea creature - what they ate because the Bible does not state. However, the carnivores probably started after the flood - Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:49:00 GMT Pasha http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19097 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19097 Jim writes:  Since no one actually knows how biological evolution occurred over the eons, there is no science that describes it. Something can't be described Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:39 GMT VictorM http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19096 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19096 ... I did not invent biblical physics and it is not a theory. It is simply a literal acceptance of the words of The Bible as a principle of physics. I simply Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:30 GMT gluadys http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19095 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19095 ... Oh, you can be a great deal more clear. After all "evolution" is a term used in many contexts: biological evolution, stellar evolution, the evolution of Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:26 GMT Pasha http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19094 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19094 Geobubs speculates: Just for giggles, if DNA is a patternmakers template then transitional species you claim to observe may not be transitional but instead Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:17 GMT Turandot1125 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19093 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19093 ... Which is so much tilting at one's own silly straw men. Paul Davies, _The Fifth Miracle: The Search for the Origin and Meaning of Life_ / Simon & Schuster / Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:09 GMT Pasha http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19092 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19092 Jim writes:  On what basis would he say [snowflakes] are directed (meaning guided by a purposive intelligence)?  We have no experience of any material causes Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:07 GMT gluadys http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19091 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19091 ... I wouldn't have much of a problem with Darwin's use of "race" either, except that he considered all "races" (French and Irish included) as "inferior" to Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:48:03 GMT jayjay4547 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19090 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19090 ... I had a look at Sander Gliboff's critique of From Darwin to Hitler that you linked to above. His piece will only impress people who are already inclined to Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:07:35 GMT Jim Goff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19089 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19089 WORLDVIEWS.... Pasha: "The theory of evolution is the foundation upon which the entire edifice of biological science is constructed." Given that most fields of Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:59 GMT geobubs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19088 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19088 VICTOR: Thank you for your post. Science observes unchanging axioms that somewhat like the unchanging Biblical principles. In my science training I do not Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:35:36 GMT Jim Goff http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19087 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19087 WORLDVIEWS gluadys: "...my overall impression is that you (geobubs) have not yet clarified what you have in mind by 'evolution'." Given your own often Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:34:39 GMT geobubs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19086 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19086 ... Gluadys: You continually make the assumption that Evolution is a truth and factual. Yet there are more holes and frauds in the theory than truths. Getting Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:33:31 GMT Pasha http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19085 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OriginsTalk/message/19085 I would like to propose "Biblical Physics" should be renamed Victor's theory, or "Victor's Biblical Physics," after its leading proponent. This will help