http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/ PIEreligion Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:37:12 GMT Edgard Bikelis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2703 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2703 BTW: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:42:36 GMT Sarah http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2702 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2702 I don't have any thoughts on the sitting sacrifice at this point. It's a very odd position. Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:31:54 GMT WReaves http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2701 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2701 Hi Sarah, ... I don?t know the exact origin of the idea. I have read Lincoln, Mallory & Adams, etc. So it?s really a combination of many things. Where it Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:10:16 GMT Sarah http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2700 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2700 The Scythians had animal and human sacrifice. They decapitated their enemies and keep the skulls. They also drank the blood of their enemies out of the Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:46:05 GMT Wade http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2699 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2699 Sorry if I've seemed curt in any of these recent e-mails, but I threw out my back almost 3 weeks ago, so I'm in constant pain--it's gotten a lot better, Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:52:12 GMT Francesco Brighenti http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2698 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2698 ... There was, indeed, a change from bloody animal sacrifices with decapitation in Rgvedic times, to avoidance of bloodshed at animal sacrifices in the Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:37:15 GMT Edgard Bikelis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2697 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2697 ... I just passed the eyes over the SAnkhAyana SrautasUtra, and it doesn't say much... did you check the gRhyasUtras? On iranian, did you see the 'Avesta' by Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:36:27 GMT CeiSerith@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2696 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2696 I've been researching IE methods of sacrifice and have hit a wall with India. I have great evidence for Rome -- a mallet, an axe, a flint stone -- and Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:37:27 GMT WReaves http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2695 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2695 Hi Wade, The Cult of the Head, depending on how you define it, certainly exists in IE lore and appears to be linked to an organized symbolic system related to Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:31:41 GMT Wade http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2694 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2694 Hey my peeps! :o) I just returned from a VERY effective trip from the Half Price Bookstore (and I feel the deepest sympathy for any state or region that has Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:16:19 GMT slag310 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2693 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2693 message rearranged and part of it deleted so that the argument can be followed.... ... Oh, there is another element that clarifies this. Most of the PIE gods Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:53:14 GMT Sarah http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2692 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2692 It appears that the Finns have the theory of soul loss as source of illness. So, I'd say that they fit with the definition of Shamanism. Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:05:28 GMT Francesco Brighenti http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2691 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2691 ... Not yet published. It is due out in Fall 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yd2uvkt Cheers, Francesco Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:01:23 GMT Sarah http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2690 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2690 Francesco, Thank you for the publication sources. It looks quite interesting and will definitely read it. Have you read Michael Witzel's latest book? I've Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:56:34 GMT Laura Mollett http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2689 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PIEreligion/message/2689 I see your point, but even then if the PIEs practiced ancestor worship and/or if a hero were important enough, it is possible there would be remnants of his