http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/ Eastern Renaissance Wargamers Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:46:07 GMT kadrinazi http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1600 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1600 David There were other factors as well. Obviously it was great honour to fight in rank of 'elite' banners like king's or hetman's own (either husaria or Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:02:20 GMT Bak5757 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1599 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1599 Michal, Thanks for the response...it would seem then that it could be either the result of simple economics and/or personal relationships. David Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:38:36 GMT kadrinazi http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1598 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1598 Quite often nobles joined particular unit because the were in some sort of relations to noble/magnate rasing such unit. They could be part of family, Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:15:55 GMT Bak5757 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1597 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1597 Radek, Thanks for the information ... a couple of questions. If nobles were in each of the three types of units was the principle distinction between why a Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:40:26 GMT Radoslaw Sikora http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1596 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1596 It is a very good question. The author of quoted data (prof. Marek Wagner) wrote about % of nobles in hussar/pancern/light cavalry companies. It might suggest Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:06:34 GMT huevans@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1595 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1595 Thanks once again. When you give those %'s for the hussars, are they for the entire regt, or just for the "comrades"? Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:59:54 GMT Radoslaw Sikora http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1594 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1594 Polish cossack-style cavalrymen (called in the second half of 17th c. 'pancerni') were recruited in the same way as hussars. And yes, recruits for Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:33:02 GMT huevans@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1593 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1593 Most of us now know that Husaria were recruited by the "comrade" system, wherein the proprietor of a proposed unit approached a selection of socially Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:58:35 GMT huevans@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1592 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1592 A poster called aecurtis on TMP supplied a very nice link to period Muscovite armour displayed at the Kremlin. http://textplay.net/pages/0017.htm Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:42:03 GMT dean marquis http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1591 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1591 Gentlemen The Queen The regiment To fallen friends Dean the Landsnecht. To: PanMark@yahoogroups.com From: MDegner3@... Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:43:33 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:25:40 GMT John http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1590 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1590 ... Thank you for providing us a forum were we can converse about a subject that inspires us all. John "Czar" Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:43:48 GMT mdegner3 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1589 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1589 It's been a great year on this forum: lots of gentlemanly discussion and insights into both history and gaming. Thanks to everyone who contributed. May you all Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:33:06 GMT Nigel BILLINGTON http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1588 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1588 I agree with you. I offered that Polish wiki point of view as a discussion topic as I always assumed wings were worn in battle and who would want to buy Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:50:07 GMT huevans@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1587 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1587 Thanks, Nigel. Received by email today. Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:18:34 GMT huevans@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1586 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanMark/message/1586 Err, no. Did you answer on your blog site, or by email? Either way, I didn't receive/ find it.