http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/ Pulse Diagnosis List Serve Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:51:34 GMT Are Thoresen http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4380 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4380 I have written quite much about pulse diagnosis in animals in my book, which may be seen at my homepage. The book is published in Norwegian, English, Italian, Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:33:57 GMT Ross Rosen http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4379 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4379 Lon Yes. Hesitant wave can accompany any other pulse qualities, not necessarily Tight. Tight on Uniform Impressions would suggest systemic yin defic, while the Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:15:29 GMT sppdestiny http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4378 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4378 Ross, I can see the heart yin component that you are pointing to and it makes perfect sense. With herbs I've often used Gan Lu Yin when hesitant is seen in Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:43:17 GMT Eric Waltemate http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4377 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4377 As for constitution, I really like palpating the source point of the channel that I correlate with the constitution. The most weak, the most strong, the Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:58:12 GMT mystir http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4376 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4376 Hi Will. Looking back thru the discussion, I can see you all are speaking, identifying the specific use of the term, from Mr Hammers view. I'll look and maybe Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:18:20 GMT William Morris http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4375 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4375 OK - let's mix our metaphors. The hesitant pulse has a shortened time for automaticity and refractory period. These notes are extrapolated from studies with Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:07:08 GMT rossrosen http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4374 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4374 I can definitely understand that. To some degree it is contingent upon perspective. For example, one can see the representative formula for treating Hesitant Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:13:29 GMT William Morris http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4373 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4373 Lon - As I relayed before, I concur with your thought that there is an involvement of the *yi. *And, we are speaking about Leon Hammer's hesitant pulse. There Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:25:06 GMT john kokko http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4372 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4372 I believe that the "pecking" pulse in Kiiko style is found on the stomach position (right middle- guan). The pecking pulse lacks horizontal movement and root, Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:30:58 GMT Eduardo Lobo http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4371 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4371 Hello to all. I'm a vet from Brasil who works with acupuncture in small animals. i'm looking for some infformation about pulse diagnosis in animals, papers, Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:19:13 GMT William Morris http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4370 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4370 Hi Mystir -I think it is important to highlight that the hesitant pulse under discussion is specific to Leon Hammer's nomenclature. It does not correlate with Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:55:19 GMT William Morris http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4369 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4369 Hi Ross, Lon and Peter, I am on vacation in Southern OR and have time for posting. ;-) The wave analysis method for Hammer's 'hesitant' pulse also confirms Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:42:10 GMT mystir http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4368 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4368  That might be closer. As I see it, and learned it, its not an uncommon term,.. the hesitance is when feeling the rythym, the breakover wave is late and Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:05:50 GMT sppdestiny http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4367 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4367 Ross, I appreciate the context you're providing here. Still, I have to stand by my observations over quite some time that the earth element is strongly Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:38:30 GMT rossrosen http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4366 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PulseDiagnosis/message/4366 Hi Peter, Lon, Will... Sorry for the delay. Busy with patients. In terms of the Hesitant pulse wave, we generally consider this to be a Heart yin deficient