http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/ R1b1c_U106-S21_Haplogroup Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:05:37 GMT Debbie Kennett http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2396 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2396 The figure for female surname transmission quoted by Chris Pomery does not surprise me and I would guess that similar figures would apply for most surnames in Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:43:47 GMT Lyn David McMullen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2395 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2395 Thanks Tim, this is particularly useful to me, as I am negative for all known downstream subclades. Where our U106 progenitor was 4000 years ago (or more) Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:52:22 GMT Graeme http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2394 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2394 Catching up on older posts, I found this statement in Chris Pomery's paper astounding: "The rate of female surname transmission (through unmarried mothers) is Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:40:40 GMT Debbie Kennett http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2393 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2393 Genographic Project customers can transfer their results to the FTDNA database free of charge. There is a section at the bottom of each personal Genographic Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:42:59 GMT Graeme http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2392 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2392 Makes sense to me. If you're not out hunting and gathering for days on end, you have more time for other things :-) Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:23:30 GMT Graeme http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2391 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2391 I suppose I could contact him and ask. Do the samples taken via the GP get stored at FTDNA in the usual FTDNA customer fashion, or would he need to scrape Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:39:39 GMT Roy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2390 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2390 I am R1b1b2a1a4 and am Null 425. I have ordered both the L148 and the DYF371X test and will report the results when available. I know how the L148 test will Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:57:06 GMT Tarney Smith http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2389 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2389 Gary and Mike, Thanks so much to both of you for your prompt replies. I will order the DYF371X test tomorrow, and be sure to share the results on this forum Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:34:34 GMT Tarney Smith http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2388 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2388 Thank you so much for your prompt reply....I will order the DYF371X tomorrow! Tarney Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:37:20 GMT Michael Maddi http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2387 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2387 Almost every R1b1b2 with a null 425 who orders the DYF371x test, including those in the L48+ cluster, will get a 10c-10c-13c-14c result. This is a result of Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:17:02 GMT Gary Merrill http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2385 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2385 I am R-U106, L48+, and DYS425Null. Several years ago I tested for DYF371x with DNA-F and am 10c,10c,13c,14c . In other words, I'm "DYS425"=10. I wonder how Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:25:39 GMT Tarney Smith http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2384 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2384 Hi all, I am the contact/sponsor of Rex Sandifer, Kit 130720, YSearch VTM4U. Deep clade testing last fall identified him as R1b1b2a1a, at which time he joined Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:11:37 GMT Tim Janzen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2383 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2383 Dear Lyn, The TMRCA estimates I did last July for R-U106 were in the range of 4000-4500 years as well. See Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:03:18 GMT Lyn David McMullen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2382 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2382 Bit of a dog fight on calculation methods, but if I read thru it all correctly, Ken and Vince see it as about 4000 plus or (-). That is not too far off what Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:06:46 GMT Owen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2381 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/R1b1c_U106-S21/message/2381 Hi Here is an U106 age estimate of 4175: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2010-02/1265161958 There is debate on the error bar