http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/ Rafting Grand Canyon Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:12:15 GMT fdon97 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5878 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5878 Thanks for that Tom. I had a chance to pass this on to some it might matter to and I did. 100,000 comments...WOW, it might be time for reform to an antiquated Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:02:46 GMT Tom Martin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5877 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5877 FYI, tom ... http://www.pewminingreform.org/pr-2009nov5.html After nearly 100,000 members of the public called for protecting the Grand Canyon from mining, a Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:13:19 GMT Tom Martin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5876 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5876 And there are still folks out there that say getting all that increased use in the winter to get a 50-50 user day allocation split (which isn't right anyway as Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:41:55 GMT Tom Martin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5875 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5875 Hi all, the BOR is forecasting that for November the peak flow from Glen Canyon Dam will be approx. 13,500 cfs and the low will be 7,500 cfs each day. For Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:51:17 GMT option@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5874 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5874 Phil, I row an 18ft non-SB Havasu. I have also rowed a 14 ft cat. While the cat was great fun, I didn't have anybody else or much gear on board, (we had a Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:33:28 GMT Victor Simenc http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5873 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5873 I've rowed the grand in 18', 16', 14' rafts, a dory and an Aire Jag. The jag was as stable and easy as the bigger rafts. The problem I had with it was load Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:48:08 GMT railtramp http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5872 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5872 We just skipped Phantom. If Aunt Edna died, she would still be dead at the end of the trip. If the house burned down, the ashes would be waiting for me when I Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:03:32 GMT Steve Christensen http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5871 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5871 Neither one is necessary. I think Tubby was the one who said, after all, it's the GC. It's pretty forgiving. The 16-foot SB is plenty and the 16-foot cat is Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:00:20 GMT rafter83864 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5870 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5870 a prepaid phone calling card takes most of the bite out of the phantom pay phone- i think mine charged a buck or half a buck to connect and three cents a Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:59:07 GMT Rich Harter http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5869 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5869 Without regard to handling, the biggest question for experienced boaters going to the Grand is, can I carry my share of the gear and food. We can probably all Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:48:24 GMT otto1561 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5868 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5868 I had 18' Cat tubes and didn't like how big and piggish they were on smaller rivers... so I downsized to 16' Aire Jag tubes and its the best boat I've had Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:31:03 GMT pickett_p http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5867 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5867 Thanks for all of the input. At this point I'm leaning toward renting the 18' boat. As much as I'd like to row my 16', I think for a trip of this length my Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:42:29 GMT restrac2000 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5866 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5866 ... The quantity and quality of information provided depends on the user. Each "SPOT" device comes with a website that allows you to personalize information Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:26:43 GMT Thomas Robey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5865 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5865 On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:07 PM, brady black wrote: Just to reinforce Brady's comment, commercial companies often have evacuated people with gastrointestinal Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:07:10 GMT Thomas Robey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5864 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rafting_Grand_Canyon/message/5864 ... Phillip, I can't help but wonder a bit about the simplicity from the standpoint of the rescuer. Receiving one of these has absolutely no information. If