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      <title>Re: A new frig uses $45 yr/electricity</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:40:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3725</link>
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      <description>I have been living off grid for over 4 years with solar.  60 watts is not going to do it in the real world.  I currently have 640 watts solar which would do</description>
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      <title>Re: A new frig uses $45 yr/electricity</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3724</link>
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      <description>Soooo totally intresting. I am building a cabin and want to go completely off grid ~ONLY the fridge issue.I saw a solar panel kit that puts out 60watts and it</description>
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      <title>Re: lauren</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:33:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>firekeeper38</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3723</link>
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      <description>That is not an accurate assesment Here is a map of the rough temps accross the nation using groundwater which has proven a fair map</description>
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      <title>$45</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:58:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3722</link>
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      <description>Good points Darryl... I would add to this the price of solar panels and the cost and maintance of a bank of batteries for the off grid system... not sure of</description>
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      <title>lauren</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:50:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>charles malone</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3721</link>
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      <description>I think your figures may be a little off on the ground temp. 5 feet down, in most parts of the country, there is little temp fluctuation. At 5 ft of depth,</description>
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      <title>Re: storing &quot;cold&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:32:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>LarenCorie</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3720</link>
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      <description>From: &quot;Toby&quot; &lt;rborden2@...&gt; ... Hi Toby; Where are you located? ... It does not work quite that way. In Summer you still need to dehumidify the house</description>
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      <title>Re: A new frig uses $45 yr/electricity</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:14:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Darryl McMahon</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3719</link>
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      <description>Depends on what costs you are including. There are two major components to be considered in my opinion: 1) acquisition cost (price, installation, financing or</description>
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      <title>Re: storing &quot;cold&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:04:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3718</link>
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      <description>Interesting question as I had some dream plans for an underground house that include a room (well insulated on the house side only) that I wanted to put a heat</description>
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      <title>A new frig uses $45 yr/electricity</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>BILL THOMAS</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3717</link>
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      <description>&quot;&quot;$45/year for who? living off grid in a home where power is not redly available and it&#39;s not just $45/year&quot;&quot; ... Its $45 year for about 95% of the people who</description>
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      <title>Re: $45</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:49:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3716</link>
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      <description>$45/year for who? living off grid in a home where power is not redly available and it&#39;s not just $45/year... I&#39;m looking to for two things here... one to</description>
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      <title>Re: storing &quot;cold&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:47:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3715</link>
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      <description>This spring I will be building a 24 foot by 24 foot root cellar.  There will be 2 inches of styrofoam on the outside vertical against the poured cement wall</description>
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      <title>Re: storing &quot;cold&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:46:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>john felch</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3714</link>
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      <description>Just a hint about refer doors Jack up the front legs on the refer box a little and the door will close itself . ________________________________ From:</description>
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      <title>Re: reducing fridge power use</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:28:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>riftalope</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3713</link>
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      <description>The added fan is a power trade-off. Colder food for more energy. Adjusting where the air comes from is a better choice. But a duct is better than a hole. Get</description>
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      <title>Re: storing &quot;cold&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:10:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>riftalope</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3712</link>
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      <description>Speaking of closing that door- I&#39;m living at a house (moving soon) where the old GE TFX24fFH side by side has some great features. This thing beeps after the</description>
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      <title>Re: storing &quot;cold&quot;</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:26:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Rogerio Oliveira</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RefrigeratorAlternatives/message/3711</link>
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      <description>Insulation is a key issue when storing cold. A better alternative is  storing &quot;potential&quot; to have cold. This can be achieved with any sorption system. For</description>
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