http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/ Software Requirements Engineering Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:36:30 GMT Putcha V. Narasimham http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2188 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2188 Friends under Cc: Please see the appended first message on this subject. Dear David:  Surely that is a great question in its own right and also because I did Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:19:35 GMT David Gelperin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2187 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2187 You defined "acceptable" question as: "a non-obvious, non-trivial question directly related to G which probes the knowledge / understanding and evokes an Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:41:40 GMT Putcha V. Narasimham http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2186 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2186 In my teaching and testing I use normal quizzes and also INVERSE QUIZ. I don't know if there is another name for it. Inverse Quiz is a method of testing Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:59:10 GMT Capers@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2185 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2185 Cesar, I filed a patent application for a new kind of sizing method based on pattern matching. This method is more accurate than backfiring but not as Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:23:39 GMT Cesar Rabak http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2184 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2184 Hi Capers, This question applies as well to the other data you shared with us in replying to Christoff: Was the estimation made using IFPUG counting rules or Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:38:02 GMT Donald Firesmith http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2183 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2183 Christof, Thank you. Just what I was looking for. Don From: Requirements-Engineering@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Requirements-Engineering@yahoogroups.com] On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:08:10 GMT Ronald Wilt http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2182 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2182 I will be out of the office starting 10/22/2009 and will not return until 10/26/2009. I am out of the office on October 22 and 23. I will have very limited Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:43:19 GMT Capers@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2181 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2181 Christof, If you look at a modern hybrid such as a Prius and include the sound system, GPS package, engine controls, brakes, safety devices, etc you probably Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:35:26 GMT Capers@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2180 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2180 All, I have some estiimated data on the approximate volumes of software in various kinds of physical devices. The data is expressed in terms of IFPUG function Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:11:15 GMT Ebert, Christof http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2179 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2179 Hi Donald, for a current premium car we talk about 75 ECUs which consume some 5 KW and have more than 1 GB of software (navigation data not included). Here two Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:49:54 GMT Donald Firesmith http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2178 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2178 Does anyone know how much software there is in a high-end or hybrid car? Donald G. Firesmith Acquisition Support Program (ASP) Software Engineering Institute Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:05:06 GMT Capers@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2177 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2177 Don, Some viruses, worms, and botnets seem to be autonomous once they are launched. Although it is only a feature and not a full application, what about Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:12:31 GMT Putcha V. Narasimham http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2176 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2176 Yes, I thought some one would point out that there is "Guidance" for evading obstacles and seek target (even a moving target, if it is defined). An autonomous Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:22:45 GMT Putcha V. Narasimham http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2175 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2175 Very good point. Any man made system which is considered automatic or autonomous or adaptive is actually designed and or programmed (within specified limits) Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:44:02 GMT rjschaaf http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2174 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Requirements-Engineering/message/2174 Over and over, our post mortems show that one of the big mistakes in requirements engineering (and in V&V) is to treat a system too much as an autonomous