http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/ San Diego Fire Recovery Network (SDFRN) Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:07:16 GMT Patricia J Akers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1674 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1674 Janet, I think the worst of all of this is that all these people who are trashing San Diego County say they love it here. Really? When this group began there Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:52:25 GMT Janet K. Shelton http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1673 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1673 I got my first abatement order in 2004. The misrepresentation and outright lies associated with this were stunning. It didn't take me long to figure out that Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:48:43 GMT Patricia J Akers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1672 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1672 There is a systematic method of determining where these might be. Look at google earth and zillow.com You can even go street by street, parcel by parcel and Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:47:34 GMT Richard Halsey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1671 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1671 As with most problems regarding the lack of environmental protection in San Diego County, it will take a lawsuit by a motivated homeowner or a conservation Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:10:45 GMT afege@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1670 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1670 When insurance companies demand 300 to 500 feet of defensible space, they are violating California law! As of September 2008, insurance companies are not Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:14:32 GMT Richard Halsey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1669 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1669 Cindy, I really appreciate your enthusiasm for sharing your love of nature. Thank you, Rick Chaparral...help protect what's left The California Chaparral Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:28:38 GMT iokuok2 Buxton http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1668 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1668 latest videos of the back country: A cooooool one of upper Cedar Creek with alota frogs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZUX4ihNB28 A hummingbird feeding her Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:19:08 GMT delachenaie1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1667 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1667 Strikes me that the type of experimentation in the ceanothus would not be implemented as easily on aspens. On the attribution to global warming and the Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:24:22 GMT Richard Halsey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1666 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1666 Fire suppression is claimed to be the boogie man once again. Is there any data to support this claim, or it is yet another blind acceptance of the Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:53:26 GMT Jon E Keeley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1665 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1665 Patricia The first thing one would want to know is what is the causal mechanism behind Aspen mortality. Currently what is being reported are correlations. If Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:54:22 GMT Patricia J Akers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1664 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1664 How would it be tested? Patricia ___ Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:17:33 GMT Jon E Keeley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1663 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1663 Patricia Increasingly I am seeing scientific reports of environmental changes attributed to climate change, based entirely on the fact that the change is Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:55:04 GMT Patricia J Akers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1662 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1662 What does everyone think about the attribution of fire suppression contributing to this die off? I used to spend a lot of time in the Aspen forests of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:59:10 GMT afege@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1661 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1661 A serious, sobering article from today’s LA Times about aspen mortality. More information about this Sudden Aspen Death-SAD at Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:31:39 GMT iokuok2 Buxton http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1660 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDFRN/message/1660 taken December 2008 just before the SPUC decision to put the line here. On the face slope of Gaskill. Chaparral ,Elfin forest words, manzanita in