http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/ ScrumChina Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:57:02 GMT zou_chris http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/539 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/539 I would like to think the team need a testing coach, instead of need a dedicated tester. The traditional software process limit the developer to spend more Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:52:57 GMT yi_lv http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/538 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/538 Just let you know that we are working further on a gathering on Dec.12 (Saturday) in Shanghai. The registration notice with more information shall come out Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:20:52 GMT JulienM http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/532 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/532 Hi guys, Just to let you know we will provide the first public Certified ScrumMaster (CSM) course in Chinese in Beijing given by Lv Yi on the 27-28 November. Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:02:18 GMT yi_lv http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/531 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/531 Hi, The idea behind the practice of no priority change after sprint planning unless sprint termination is to keep the balance between responding to change and Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:44:56 GMT vernonstinebaker http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/530 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/530 I agree with Ken. And very strongly so. Testing should begin even with requirements (invesT); and similar to TDD it should not only be a testing activity, it Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:30:25 GMT kaverjody http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/529 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/529 ... I would be interested to know what do you mean by "Scrum guide"? and what is your understanding of "Sprint Goal" : - why we need it - what is the value - Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:30:06 GMT central_boat http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/528 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/528 If it's like this, the product owner and the team should decide together how to handle it. As far as they agree the solution is the best for this situation, Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:25:03 GMT brian_bofu http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/527 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/527 A shorter iteration might be helpful, but still can not solve the problem. Product owner is doing good. This just happened that suddenly some requirements has Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:15:15 GMT central_boat http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/526 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/526 Hi, I think you should think out-of-the-box first. Who wants to change the scope and the goal ofthe sprint? Is it the product owner or stakeholders? Why? Is it Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:01:14 GMT brian_bofu http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/525 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/525 Still in Scrum guide, "During the Sprint, the Scrum Master ensures that no changes are made that would affect the Sprint goal" It happened that in the middle Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:57:10 GMT central_boat http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/524 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/524 Specialization is not a problem (Actually it will emerge in a team). It is imposed specialization is the problem! -- Brenda Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:13:36 GMT kaverjody http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/523 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/523 ... Having specialized testing skill in your team, or having independent testing mindset in your team, is really valuable. While this doesn't mean you have to Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:11:54 GMT vernonstinebaker http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/522 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/522 I strongly support the idea, and I'm sure there will be interest on the part of my ScrumMaster team in participating. I'll also follow up on what type of Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:57:35 GMT brian_bofu http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/521 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/521 Sometime ago, I started a thread "Dedicate Tester in an Agile Team". As summarized by InfoQ article, most members on the group agreed that having a dedicated Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:39:23 GMT yi_lv http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/520 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ScrumChina/message/520 Some update regarding the local gathering. We (He Mian, me and a few others) are thinking of organizing a Shanghai gathering by our own community in Dec.