http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/ SeaFunc Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:23:17 GMT dysinger http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/800 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/800 We need to hire some more devs full time to work on a clojure project (distributed backend hardcore clojure - not web dev). I would prefer to have someone in Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:51:35 GMT Jim Grundy http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/799 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/799 Commercial Users of Functional Programming Workshop (CUFP) 2009 Functional Programming As a Means, Not an End Call for Participation Sponsored by SIGPLAN Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:08:33 GMT Alan Mortensen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/798 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/798 I think one way to deal with the problem of high speed but ugly code would be to change the acceptance criterion. Instead of just keeping the fastest solution Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:51:30 GMT Brandon Van Every http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/797 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/797 ... The benchmarks seem to be saying that some bottlenecks are not going to be optimized away, at least not in the languages themselves. I guess if one Tue, 02 Jun 2009 06:57:19 GMT Jonathan Leonard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/796 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/796 ... Good point. As I mentioned in another recent post it seems a bit disingenuous to use these programs as measures of 'expressivity' in that case. ... Yep, Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:56:47 GMT Jonathan Leonard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/795 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/795 P.S. If it weren't obvious from my last mail, I didn't realize that each 'language community' submitted its own codes. For some reason, I had figured there Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:54:03 GMT Jonathan Leonard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/794 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/794 Yes, but look good in terms of performance or code size? I'd prefer shorter easier to maintain codes with bottlenecks optimized away where required. Given Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:38:53 GMT Mitchell Johnson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/793 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/793 ... I think that's actually an interesting component to "The Game". Usually people writing in language X have an incentive to make their language look good. I Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:12:10 GMT Shachaf Ben-Kiki http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/792 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/792 ... I think it's important to remember that these programs were optimized for speed; very few of them, if any, are written the way one would normally write a Tue, 02 Jun 2009 00:20:09 GMT Jonathan Leonard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/791 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/791 It does have its problems though. For one, it is at the mercy of each individual implementor and not all implementors are created equal in all languages. For Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:59:37 GMT Mitchell Johnson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/790 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/790 That is a really great visualization of the benchmarks game -- seems to really answer the question. Another question I would like to ask the benchmarks game Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:22:17 GMT Jonathan Leonard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/789 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/789 Given our discussion of what makes a good language last meeting [and the general interest in language amongst FPers], I thought I'd share this quantitative Thu, 28 May 2009 20:39:33 GMT Jonathan Leonard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/788 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/788 I think the 'Unlambda' one is just a joke thrown in for free (although it's technically still an FP, no)? ;-) Thu, 28 May 2009 18:37:03 GMT Mark Engelberg http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/787 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/787 That could work for me, especially if it's some place with easy parking. Thu, 28 May 2009 07:09:50 GMT Ashley Yakeley http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/786 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeaFunc/message/786 ... "Renstat (sp?) company in Portland hiring FP jobs" That would be Rentrak. They've been posting on CraigsList, for instance