http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/ The Silmarillion Writers' Guild Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:33:31 GMT melissa chandra http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3005 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3005 Wow! You have a digital copy of HomE, Dawn? O_O Mine are there, but can't be opened somehow. :( Would you mind sharing with me? :-\  Books don't do me good Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:10:43 GMT Alassante7 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3004 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3004 The theme for Nov/Dec is 'Memories'. It doesn't have to be based on documented events and need to be based on an actual character in the books. Each writer Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:59:20 GMT Dawn Felagund http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3003 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3003 Hi, all, The newsletter for November has been posted on our website here: http://www.silmarillionwritersguild.org/news/newsletter.php We have *lots* of new Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:31:46 GMT Dawn Felagund http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3002 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3002 Eledhwen, if you would like a digital copy of HoMe 11, please let me know, and I will send it to you off-list. :) Dawn ... -- ~oOo~ Dawn Felagund Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:54:37 GMT Rhapsody http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3001 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3001 ... I just checked my nanowrimo file. She has a younger sister named Beril born First Age 365, no further details than a birthdate is known in HoME 11. Good Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:02:20 GMT eledhwen913 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3000 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/3000 Does anyone know if Andreth had more than one sibling, other than her brother Bregor? Are there any mentions of her in [HoME: The War of the Jewels]? (Sorry, Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:58:01 GMT hathorsisle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2999 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2999 ... As I've found on-line PE 17 lists "turu" as "master, deafeat, have victory over", while PE 16 translates "turu" as wood, and "turúva" as wooden. Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:35:54 GMT hathorsisle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2998 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2998 Hi Pandemonium, ... But it does! Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted. Even more info than I expected :) In this light I'll keep for myself Turukáno as the Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:25:29 GMT Doc Bushwell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2997 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2997 One more thing -- "Sara" in the Qenya lexicon appears to be associated with wood -- as in planks, sawing, etc. "Sarta" is a Quenya gloss that apparently means Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:15:05 GMT hathorsisle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2996 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2996 ... No, you're not - I wasn't clear, sorry! They gave "PE" only, I think it must be Parma Eldalamberon, but I don't trust an automatic translation of a forum Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:13:31 GMT Doc Bushwell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2995 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2995 Sirielle, ... The citation of "Sarafinwë" as Turgon's father name indeed comes from Parma Eldarlamberon vol. 17, p. 113, which I have propped open beside me. Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:56:58 GMT Dawn Felagund http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2994 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2994 Okay, then I'm dense! I thought the question was which source the name came from. Sorry. :) Is the question whether the cite is correct? I don't have PE, so I Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:51:19 GMT hathorsisle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2993 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2993 Hi Dawn, they did - Parma Eldalamberon 17, page 113: http://www.eldalamberon.com/parma17.html (and copy, since the original link doesn't work for me) Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:45:41 GMT Dawn Felagund http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2992 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2992 Sirielle, I just did a search of the digital copies of my Tolkien books for "saraf" and didn't find anything. Perhaps it's in one of the linguistic journals or Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:48:23 GMT hathorsisle http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2991 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilmarillionWritersGuild/message/2991 Hello! /////Sorry for double message, but it went in while I was editing and had to press a short cut which I don't know ;) I've stepped over "Sarafinwe" being