http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/ Simchat_Torah Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:00:52 GMT Larry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/952 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/952 go to http://simchattorah.blogspot.com/ and follow. Will be posting some things there soon. Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:00:21 GMT Larry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/951 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/951 After getting to know him, it's hard to believe anything that comes out of his mouth... I don't like having to say that... but those who also know him will Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:53:32 GMT Daniel Segard http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/950 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/950 I can't confirm it on anything other than the fact that he stated this on a number of occasions back in the 1990's. ... From: Marsha Vasner Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:43:05 GMT Marsha Vasner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/949 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/949 I was told tonight that Messer attended Rhema Bible College in Tulsa.  Can anyone confirm that?   ________________________________ From: Larry Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:11:16 GMT Larry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/948 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/948 Ordained where? As a rabbi? Never. As a pastor... I don't know. I don't know of any ordinations he received. It's one thing to not care about ordinations. Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:00:10 GMT Marsha Vasner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/947 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/947 Who ordained R Messer was he ever ordained?   Not that I place much authority in ordinations.  After all, who can trace their ordinations back 3 or 4 Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:39:52 GMT Aharon Brewer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/946 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/946 I have talked to Ralph. Your answer depends on who you ask - He was born a to a Catholic family. He never converted to Judaism. The glue is in the fact: His Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:39:27 GMT Larry Smart http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/945 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/945 Ralph was born into a Roman Catholic family. He has no Jewish heritage despite his claims to the contrary. He went to Rainbow Bible College and Orel Roberts Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:09:39 GMT organicdiet777 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/944 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/944 Does anyone have a history of R Messer? What was the faith in which he was born, converted to, how did he become a Rabbi? Who ordained him? M V Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:46:01 GMT Larry Smart http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/943 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/943 Ariel Ehrmantrout and Ralph Messer are starting to work together again! If you go to www.twitter.com/ehrmantrout you will see that. Also, could you put these Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:12:56 GMT Nancy Moritzky http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/942 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/942 Thanks Denise for your honesty. I am in agreement, many who left should have told others their reason, but remember the warnings we were all given about "la Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:08:41 GMT Nancy Moritzky http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/941 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/941 Denise, I have often felt sorry for her, because as far as I am concerned she is a far better "catch" than the mistress RM is/was involved with. She is very Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:47:23 GMT denisewoodyard@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/940 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/940 Nancy, It's amazing that Mrs. Messer shared that with you or whoever. Just like she used to do with us in some of those Mikveh services. I believe the Messers Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:46:57 GMT denisewoodyard@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/939 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/939 When I saw this couple again, they did mention that Ralph Messer apologized to them later on for the incident with the security guards and they have since Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:13:58 GMT Larry Smart http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/938 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simchat_Torah/message/938 The ADL does not concern themselves with doctrines except where they defame other religious groups. The ADL did write a letter to Ralph, Mark, BJ, and the