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Phlip — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:50:11 GMT

[sorry about the premature submit!] TFUI: Testing views is not always about testing thru-the-view, like capture-playback tests, or Watir or Selenium tests,

Re: why is Presenter First better for TDD?

Phlip — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:36:19 GMT

... WikiPedia might possibly be ... (mumble) ... incorrect. It has been known to happen before. It's certainly just an aberration. ... If "presenter first" is

Re: [agile-testing] Unit Testing the Presentation Layer

Phlip — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:05:46 GMT

... Here's a metaphor - the Golden Spike at Promontory Point, Utah, where the Union Pacific and Central Pacific railways met for our first intercontinental

Re: [agile-testing] Unit Testing the Presentation Layer

Phlip — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:25:57 GMT

... To add a new feature, you should generally add it at the business layer first. The goal will be that anything a user can do to the View, a unit test can

Re: [agile-testing] Unit Testing the Presentation Layer

Phlip — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:49:24 GMT

... Could anyone here who's familiar with both ASP's Response.Write, and with Rails's ActionController::TestCase's get() method, write a little pseudocode here

Re: [agile-testing] Unit Testing the Presentation Layer

miguel de sousa — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:45:53 GMT

Re: Can ASP render a page back as a string. Absolutely! Its call Response.Write, just pipe it out to whatever channel you like :) Regards, Miguel de Sousa

Re: [agile-testing] Unit Testing the Presentation Layer

Phlip — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:48:21 GMT

... Unit testing the presentation layer should treat the test targets the same as any other layer would test them. In web programming, a web page is a big

Re: [agile-testing] Unit Testing the Presentation Layer

Phlip — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:24:10 GMT

... Will ASP allow you to cook a web page without sending it over the wire? If you Mock The Server, you can then test - even TDD - by writing assertions that

Re: Test Driven Design and Rails Helpers

Phlip — Sun, 17 May 2009 21:28:40 GMT

... Here is a bit of hemming and hawing, while I work on projects other than assert_xhtml and assert_rjs_ (as seen at http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AssertXhtml ) TDD

Re: [agile-testing] Re: Using examples to drive development

Phlip — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:34:25 GMT

... I have to confess a low rate of adoption for my assert_xpath project, to unit-test raw HTML. As a computer scientist and a DSL-zealot, I _like_ writing

Re: Unit testing cost

Phlip — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:37:39 GMT

... Tests also help you go faster, not just detect faults. Consider this example:

To assert that

Re: asserting HTML by example

Phlip — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:29:22 GMT

... Try writing the equivalent of my assertion with it. I suspect you can't, because it can't constrain the element order. And the rest would be extremely

Re: asserting HTML by example

Jason Citron — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:33:29 GMT

For structural HTML testing you should check out assert_select. It comes with Rails 2.0. Useful for testing XML too.

asserting HTML by example

Phlip — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:28:05 GMT

extremists: HTML is easy to test and hard to test well. A unit test must intercept and parse it, hopefully _before_ it goes thru a web server. I just wrote an

custom, nested HTML matchers in RSpec

Phlip — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:59:23 GMT

... Boom: http://gist.github.com/76136 it 'should have a form with a fieldset' do render '/users/new' response.body.should be_html_with{ form :action =>