http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/ TestFirstUserInterfaces Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:30:34 GMT Phlip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1012 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1012 [CCd to testfirstuserinterfaces@yahoogroups.com ] ... Study the source to Cairo (part of Gtk+). It uses a system called "golden master test". Each test case Tue, 27 May 2008 14:09:48 GMT Rob Park http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1011 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1011 I think neither, but perhaps focus on problem forms (?) first. Actually, I would focus on new stories first, then problem forms second. I would work new Tue, 27 May 2008 05:37:36 GMT Stephan Meyn http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1010 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1010 Just a question to the group - if you are looking to start automating testing, you may not have the opportunity to invest in automating all you would like to Mon, 26 May 2008 20:17:53 GMT Phlip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1009 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1009 ... Do your developers run the tests after every 1 to 10 edits, with the highest odds on 1? Do your developers prefer to revert when a test fails unexpectedly Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:22:51 GMT Phlip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1008 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1008 ... Can you treat the forms as objects, and just access their properties from normal unit tests? -- Phlip Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:07:39 GMT Phlip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1007 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1007 TFUIers: Ideally, when your developer tests call production code, it should not spew output to your STDOUT stream. If it must emit strings, it should return Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:36:59 GMT George Dinwiddie http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1006 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1006 ... Mark, that's something I hadn't thought about as I've never used the record/playback form of testing with Abbot. I used it for TDDing the GUI, so the Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:30:57 GMT ketan kalia http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1005 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1005 Hi, Please try WebAii from www.artoftest.com I have used it and it is really good.It can be run inside the NUnit framework,supports AJAX testing. And it can be Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:38:34 GMT Daniel Wellman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1004 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1004 GWT code looks like regular Java code except in a few conditions: it can inline native JavaScript within your Java source, or it can use a compile-time Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:50:51 GMT Rick Mugridge http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1003 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1003 Hi Dan, No, I haven't, but I've been keen to try out GWT for some time. I really like the way they manage Javascript. I've been waiting for the widget set to Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:20:19 GMT Daniel Wellman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1002 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1002 Hi Rick, Have you written Fit tests for GWT? If so, did your tests require one of the fake hosted mode browsers to run to handle widgets or deferred binding? Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:55:58 GMT Rob Park http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1001 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1001 Thanks! .rob. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:53:46 GMT Rick Mugridge http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1000 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/1000 Hi Rob, ... Yes, UI tests are very slow, whether it's web-based or GUI. That's one of the big problems with them. Sometimes you're forced to decide on timeout Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:38:15 GMT Rob Park http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/999 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/999 On the agile-testing list, I've been gathering info WRT acceptance tests for this and comparing WatiR, WatiN, Selenium, etc... So now I've noticed that our Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:31:00 GMT Phlip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/998 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TestFirstUserInterfaces/message/998 Agilitas: Here's a blog entry on how to use Why's Hpricot library inside assertions, to constrain your Rails views: