http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/ Warhammer WW2 Alternate Rules Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:32:59 GMT retteyd http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1386 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1386 Problem with trying to read the 5th rules is that so much of it is familiar that you can easily miss the bits that have changed. Glancing over a pre-release Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:05:53 GMT retteyd http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1385 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1385 ... to revise files scattered about the 'net. ... I can see what you mean here. I was thinking of something basic like one ruleset and a single army list, with Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:01:33 GMT Silver Samurai http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1384 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1384 From what I understand of the new rules having glanced over an advanced copy of them, the rules won't largely change much. Assaults will be handled slightly Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:31:59 GMT retteyd http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1383 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1383 From what I've seen of 5th rules, they change a couple of 4th edition rules that probably should never have been brought in, such as the targeting tests for Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:57:00 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1382 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1382 Okay, a followup..... I did a bit of sniffing about and so far what I see makes 5th edition a much bigger change than 4th edition was. For AWWW2, not much Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:17:51 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1381 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1381 One final note is that the German AFV's are priced, pointwise, based on the stats of the weapons they are equipped with. Changing the performance stats of the Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:06:46 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1380 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1380 I'll be honest Mark, I haven't played 40K in years now, and had no idea they were once again changing rules versions. Guess that will make this game largely Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:05:18 GMT markrussell@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1379 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1379 any thoughts on what is known of 5th edition WH40K yet? anything that could be used with these lists? rgrds all Mark Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:05:13 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1378 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1378 ... I'd prefer not at this late stage, it simply makes it too difficult to revise files scattered about the 'net. ... True enough, and much has been written Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:18:56 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1377 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1377 ... I've personally shot surplus PASGT and MICH K-pots with Tok, and yes, it penetrates. Thanks for the head's up, I'll fix the German lists as well. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:17:15 GMT retteyd http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1376 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1376 ... Then you'd not be opposed to "taster" sets of rules going up on pages such as Scribd? ... Scale is always a problem. You mention 25mm figures but in Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:13:57 GMT retteyd http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1375 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1375 ... Don't know about Kevlar helmets, but the 7.63mm Mauser/7.62x25mm Tokarev will zip through many soft armour vests, even when fired from pistols. In honour Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:16:04 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1374 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1374 I have updated and reloaded the Soviet lists to implement Phil's excellent suggestion with regard to changing the 7.62x25 Tok weapons Sv modifier to "-" Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:10:02 GMT Keith Leary http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1373 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1373 Hello Phil, and welcome! It's fine to join just to look at the rules, that's really all this group was originally for was as a free file hosting location. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:12:07 GMT retteyd http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1372 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWW2alternaterules/message/1372 I have to admit I only joined because I wanted a look at the rules. Just acquired some Artizan germans and wanted some WH40K type weapon rules to fit into my