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Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no refe

Pekka Klärck — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:30:31 GMT

2009/11/7 Lisa Crispin ... I'm somewhat confused on what object-oriented means in acceptance test design. Could you give (or point to)

Re: Keyword-driven frameworks (Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant

Pekka Klärck — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:24:05 GMT

... As Bret already commented, open source doesn't mean you give others permission mess up with the code in your repository. ... I read the paper and agreed

Keyword-driven frameworks (Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Se

Martin Gijsen — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:37:29 GMT

Hi Bret, yes, I know, thanks. Martin

Re: Keyword-driven frameworks (Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant

Bret Pettichord — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:07:57 GMT

... Not sure if this clear to you or not, but you can open-source code and still retain exclusive access to your repository. Open source just means that others

Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no referenc

Martin Gijsen — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:59:30 GMT

Hi Lisa, the short answer to the first question is: Yes, it is very easy to install. But I think you need a more complete answer. Here goes: Two things are

Re[2]: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no

Patrick Wilson-Welsh — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:58:49 GMT

Hello Lisa, Me neither. So far I always end up enlisting testers and programmers to write SeleniumRC kinds of tests in actual Java, driven from actual Junit or

Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no refe

Lisa Crispin — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:41:57 GMT

Hi Martin, Would your framework be something that's installable as easily as, say, FitNesse or Canoo WebTest, and usable in a course that teaches testers

Re: Keyword-driven frameworks (Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant

Paul King — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:47:30 GMT

Hi Martin, You might also want to check out my talk on SlideShare: http://tinyurl.com/groovy-testing As well as straight coding and simplified testing DSLs, it

Keyword-driven frameworks (Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Se

Martin Gijsen — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:20:59 GMT

Pekka, it will probably become open source, perhaps even soon, but for now I want to be in control of what happens with it. The interfacing libraries for it

Keyword-driven frameworks (Re: Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Se

Pekka Klärck — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:53:38 GMT

... Why freeware and not open source? ... I'm a big proponent of the keyword-driven technique too and it's great to see more tools using that approach. I

Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no referenc

Martin Gijsen — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:26:31 GMT

Lisa, that is one of the reasons why I like keyword-driven testing so much: With the right test engine, you can have a test analyst with no programming skills

Test Design was Re: [aa-ftt] rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no referenc

Lisa Crispin — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:32:00 GMT

It's a bit frightening that Jason Huggins and Uncle Bob have never met, and they even live in the same town. OK, large metropolis. So here's the deal, my needs

Re: rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no reference implementation?

chrs_mcmhn — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:30:24 GMT

... He is also on my list, but I don't know him personally.

Re: rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no reference implementation?

mike_shimer — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:43:00 GMT

I wrote a selenium fitness bridge - haven't done much with it in a year or so.. It's on https://svn.openqa.org/svn/fatnesse/. It works for Selenium RC 1.0

Re: rant: Selenium+Fitnesse why no reference implementation?

Jason Huggins — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:03:35 GMT

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Chris McMahon ... I didn't intend to dash your hopes... I just said I ain't paying for it, kid. ;-) Not to name drop or