http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/ Acceptance and Commitment Therapy Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:57:52 GMT Robb, Harold B. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17723 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17723 Jacqueline, "Means-ends" analysis is a relational frame. It can be arbitrarily applied to anything. "Means" ar not somehow "inately means" and "ends" are not Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:50:21 GMT Jacqueline A-Tjak http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17722 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17722 Hi all, I am very grateful for this discussion about reinforcement. I am confused and hope to de-confuse. I learned from Kelly this about values: In ACT, Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:18:41 GMT Steven Hayes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17721 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17721 Todd Kashdan continues to surprise with very creative research studies of relevance to anyone intersted in ACT or CBS. This is an upcoming piece in *Behavior Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:26:46 GMT Maarten Aalberse http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17720 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17720 What I forgot to add: what I would specially want to highlight in such a paper adressing "deep experiential" folks: how helpful it can be to become more Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:49:39 GMT Maarten Aalberse http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17719 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17719 "There is a big difference between wallowing and openness. Wallowing is itself avoidant, just in another way -- esp. in the areas of values, action and Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:50:12 GMT Victoria M Follette http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17718 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17718 Hi Nomination call for ABCT Bob Klepac is interested in President And I nominated Bill Follette for Rep at large Can't wait to see you all in Reno V Victoria Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:33:22 GMT Maarten Aalberse http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17717 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17717 Hi Steve and DJ Not to be nitpicking and even less so to critise for the "fun" (which I don't have) of critisizing, but just to help you to not create Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:31:26 GMT Kelly Wilson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17716 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17716 and btw, you can read this chapter from MF2 without buying the book. I am pretty sure there is a draft on contextualpsychology.org and for sure at Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:14:06 GMT Kelly Wilson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17715 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17715 One thing at a time please BIll. Hmmmm. Widely accepted. Dunno. Theoretically coherent. I would argue it with anyone anytime. Try the alternative - discrete Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:03:19 GMT William Kordonski http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17714 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17714 Transition from one context to another is the rein forcer? Is this a generally accepted view in BA? And so, if I may look at intrinsic vs. extrinsic Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:48:29 GMT Daniel J. Moran http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17713 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17713 Glad it looks right on, and I think it would be bolstered by the other sections of this chapter. and the other chapters that include values & choice. This next Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:50:32 GMT Steven Hayes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17712 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17712 Looks right on. I regularly say in workshops things like "we are not measuring progress here in tears per hour" not unlike something Maarten said he said. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:33:31 GMT Daniel J. Moran http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17711 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17711 Maarten, now that I've read a bit about your concerns regarding the experiential movement, I understand where they are coming from and agree that that kind of Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:54:07 GMT Steven Hayes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17710 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17710 Can you fill in the missing parts of the paragraph DJ? This string has gone on for a pretty long time but I still do not know what it is about. Can you turn Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:52:29 GMT Maarten Aalberse http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17709 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy/message/17709 Yes, I?m grappling with this, probably to the point of being oversensitive to it, having been into ?deep experiencing? land myself and seen the horrors