http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/ Agile Modeling Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:57:04 GMT Stephen R Palmer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8954 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8954 Thanks, Ol' Buddy ( Old = 10 years since we first met up on that network switch software modeling gig). I have put a bit more of a rant/dump on the topic at Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:10:56 GMT Jon Kern http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8953 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8953 Steve, Ol' Buddy, I had collected some of my recent UML toolage experiences here: http://technicaldebt.wetpaint.com/page/UML+Tools jon blog: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:53:21 GMT John Edward http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8952 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8952 SETP-10 Call for papers   The 2010 International Conference on Software Engineering Theory and Practice (SETP-10) (website: http://www.PromoteResearch.org) Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:28:32 GMT Jarosaw eliski [ Analityk kontrakto http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8951 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8951 ... It is good features, I have this in my VP-UML -- Jaros³aw ¯eliñski - kontraktowy analityk biznesowy i systemowy http://wspolpraca.IT-Consulting.pl/ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:49:33 GMT Scott Preece http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8950 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8950 Hi, My experience is that tools work fine, when driven by someone who can use them at a speed comparable to drawing on a whiteboard. We have used a simple (and Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:46:08 GMT Stephen R Palmer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8949 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8949 Yep - post-it notes and flipcharts/white-boards are my tool of choice for collaborative session. Just like Scrum-style iteration planning sessions, the minute Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:49:47 GMT GW http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8948 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8948 I too prefer fluid tools and mediums... I found that post-it notes, a moleskine notebook(engineering ruled), a zebra F-301, bar napkins w/ a scotch ring, a Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:17:43 GMT pauloldfield1 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8947 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8947 (responding to Mike) ... I don't wonder you describe your uncle as "great". I'm sure it will be taken in the right spirit if I offer my condolences that he Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:00:42 GMT Stephen R Palmer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8946 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8946 Yes, EA is definitely one of the better products out there and can't argue with the value for money of the low-end editions. Unless I am missing something, I Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:26:12 GMT pauloldfield1 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8945 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8945 (responding to Joan on the path to Enlightenment) ... The important points? User Stories aren't requirements. They start as a placeholder for a requirement, Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:47 GMT drc@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8944 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8944 Check out Enterprise Architect from Sparx Systems. You can set various levels of UML "enforcement" including none. I've used EA for many years and think it's Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:04:53 GMT John Hebley http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8943 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8943 I prefer tools that do not enforce a process/methodology on me, or dictate a non-standard approach. Tools that obey UML are OK, but I'd prefer that they also Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:25:55 GMT PeteCRuth@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8942 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8942 JD: The most interesting aspects of agile modeling, and probably the trickiest to grasp, are the notions of self-organization and the concept of "just enough". Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:07:31 GMT Steven Gordon http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8941 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8941 I recommend the agile books on this page: http://www.mountaingoatsoftware.com/books as well as the presentation at the same site. These sessions are generally Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:22:11 GMT jd2home http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8940 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8940 Ha - I remember walking on the Schuylkill Expressway one winter day it closed for 3 ft of snow. Good times. Pete, you highlight a core concept in collaboration