http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/ Agile Modeling Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:47 GMT drc@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8944 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8944 Check out Enterprise Architect from Sparx Systems. You can set various levels of UML "enforcement" including none. I've used EA for many years and think it's Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:04:53 GMT John Hebley http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8943 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8943 I prefer tools that do not enforce a process/methodology on me, or dictate a non-standard approach. Tools that obey UML are OK, but I'd prefer that they also Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:25:55 GMT PeteCRuth@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8942 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8942 JD: The most interesting aspects of agile modeling, and probably the trickiest to grasp, are the notions of self-organization and the concept of "just enough". Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:07:31 GMT Steven Gordon http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8941 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8941 I recommend the agile books on this page: http://www.mountaingoatsoftware.com/books as well as the presentation at the same site. These sessions are generally Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:22:11 GMT jd2home http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8940 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8940 Ha - I remember walking on the Schuylkill Expressway one winter day it closed for 3 ft of snow. Good times. Pete, you highlight a core concept in collaboration Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:10:18 GMT jd2home http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8939 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8939 The transition suggestions have been great. I'll study up and try to connect locally for a volunteer or intern role to get some hands on experience. In Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:20:57 GMT mike.dwyer1@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8938 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8938 Paul Such a heart rendering story as this has not passed my ears in many a year. Be brave and remember that others, like my great uncle, also lived in dire Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:37:45 GMT PeteCRuth@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8937 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8937 And to you, Sir, as well, although a few of your most recent, almost poetic, comments put me in mind that you have started without me and are already a few Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:25:18 GMT PeteCRuth@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8936 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8936 Joan: Joan Davis? Philly Girl? Schuylkill Expressway in heavy snow during rush hour? Pat's Steaks? I miss all of it! I suspect that there's a far better chance Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:58:21 GMT Steven Gordon http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8935 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8935 JD, BTW, thanks for actively participating in the thread. So many newcomers ask a question, and then never respond to clarifying questions or responses. Steve Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:31:18 GMT GW http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8934 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8934 Single Barrel Salute!!! On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:30 AM, PeteCRuth@... wrote: Paul: What could be better than living where it suits you and working where you Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:29:36 GMT PeteCRuth@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8933 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8933 Paul: What could be better than living where it suits you and working where you have the chance to make a real difference? I've always made that choice and the Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:27:18 GMT Steven Gordon http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8932 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8932 Because, reality is that the original conception is never correct. The only times it appears so is when "control" does not allow the deltas discovered between Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:32:48 GMT GW http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8931 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8931 yes it is an the agile modeling group... a group with a common ground when all said is done, however a group with experience and opinions more vast than the Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:27:55 GMT GW http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8930 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/agilemodeling/message/8930 With a smooth velvety texture in one direction, and a firm yet smooth texture in another direction, you may find that O' Reilly Books seem to be a good source