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      <title>Re: Fwd: All conclusions are wrong</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:31:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ray Gardener</dc:creator>
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      <description>So... if all conclusions are wrong, does that include yours? :) As far as fundamental logical constraints go, I could suggest that time emerges from</description>
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      <title>Fwd: All conclusions are wrong</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:27:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jim Whitescarver</dc:creator>
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      <description>Someone plese tell me to shut up, if this is considered inappropriate here. ... From: Jim Whitescarver &lt;jimscarver@...&gt; Date: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:06</description>
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      <title>Re: The Primacy of Consciousness Fwd: [InfoPhysics] On Causation</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:58:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ray Gardener</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17563</link>
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      <description>I appreciate the effort to introduce a new paradigm; clearly science has this hard problem. Although one can simply limit science to observables, but this</description>
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      <title>The Primacy of Consciousness Fwd: [InfoPhysics] On Causation</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:37:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jim Whitescarver</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17562</link>
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      <description>The video link below has the dubious title &quot;The Primacy of Consciousness&quot;, but it is well presented and I believe it has relevance to the philosophy of mind</description>
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      <title>Re: Schmidhuber Fwd: computational complexity Re: [InfoPhysics] Re: </title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:18:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eray Ozkural</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17561</link>
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      <description>I agree with most of what schmidhuber says except the bit about godel machines and ants. Simply because I don&#39;t think it makes sense to create robots with </description>
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      <title>Schmidhuber Fwd: computational complexity Re: [InfoPhysics] Re: Most</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:46:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jim Whitescarver</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17560</link>
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      <description>I am sure many of you will enjoy the link below, and some the discussion.  My hope is that you might glimpse the quantum nature of truth and mind I have been</description>
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      <title>Re: Mind Meta-Circuits - Encoding...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:43:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eray Ozkural</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17559</link>
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      <description>... Well, I suppose, like you did, you can distinguish between levels of intelligence/consciousness. As for GA&#39;s, they are a &quot;biologically inspired&quot; class of</description>
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      <title>Mind Meta-Circuits - Encoding...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:14:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>CAv</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17558</link>
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      <description>Is anyone familiar with the 8 circuit model of consciousness ? I have been thinking about this model now for about 5 years and finally wrote some software to</description>
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      <title>Replacing heuristic programmers</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:21:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eray Ozkural</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17557</link>
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      <description>Late Solomonoff&#39;s latest work mentioned replacing heuristic programmers. I wonder what this might require. Minimalistic thinking yields three conditions. 1. A</description>
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      <title>Fwd: [analytic] Official philosophy referee hand signals</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:12:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eray Ozkural</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17556</link>
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      <description>This is hilarious, thanks Larry. :) ... From: Larry &lt;larry_tapper@...&gt; Date: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:01 AM Subject: [analytic] Official philosophy referee</description>
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      <title>Article: Swiss scientist attempting to create artificial sentience b</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:17:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ray Gardener</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy/message/17555</link>
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      <description>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1240410/The-real-Frankenstein-experiment-One-mans-mission-create-living-mind-inside-machine.html I&#39;m a little</description>
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      <title>Re: Free will paradox</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:14:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ray Gardener</dc:creator>
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      <description>I imagine that would be solved by noting simultaneous causal events. Ray</description>
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      <title>Re: Free will paradox</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:23:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>sadeghi.afshin</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi It is like automation of automation.Imagin (they are allready exist) neural networks that are learning to supervise training of other neural networks while</description>
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      <title>Free will paradox</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:31:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ray Gardener</dc:creator>
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      <description>Bob: I had a strange dream last night. Alice: Here we go again. Bob: I was at a tennis match and no matter how brilliantly either person played, no one cheered</description>
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      <title>Ray Solomonoff has passed away</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:34:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eray Ozkural</dc:creator>
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      <description>Dear ai-philosophy members, With great sadness, I have heard today that prominent computer scientist and artificial intelligence pioneer Ray Solomonoff has </description>
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