http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/ The aquinas list is intended to support thoughtful, respectful conversation about the works and ideas of St. Thomas Aquinas and Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:49 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8396 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8396 Here’s where Aquinas connects SUNÉSIS and GNOMÉ to the law: II-II, Question 48. The parts of prudence Article 1. Whether three parts of prudence are Mon, 25 May 2009 12:47:45 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8395 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8395 Very interesting. Thanks for this, Dan. My understanding was that equity courts in the U.S. handle cases when the general rule of law does not provide an Mon, 25 May 2009 12:40:54 GMT DANIEL DILEO http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8394 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8394 John:The main focus of your concern is more specific than gnoomee and suneesis. It it epieikes (usually translated as "equity").  What we need to consider is Sat, 23 May 2009 14:30:00 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8393 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8393 In a previous thread, Iya Osoronga (Damola) argued that ?The health of any civilisation is not measured by how you treat the majority but in the strength of Thu, 21 May 2009 19:41:54 GMT tlsmith3777@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8392 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8392 Have to send the text. Dead faith is likely simply faith that has died and no longer exists instead of some variant of faith. Sent from my BlackBerry? Thu, 21 May 2009 19:39:58 GMT tlsmith3777@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8391 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8391 The divine person illumines the mind and heart to believe, and we believe so that we can understand since faith enables one to understand the higher things of Thu, 21 May 2009 19:30:31 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8390 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8390 By the way, you will notice that Aquinas develops the idea of "dead faith". There is such a thing as dead faith. It is faith prescinded from hope and charity. Thu, 21 May 2009 19:24:00 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8389 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8389 Perhaps, the key to understanding the difference between faith and understanding is in the Personhood of God. Obviously, you don't trust a person you do not Thu, 21 May 2009 18:56:30 GMT tlsmith3777@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8388 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8388 Agreed faith is trust, but we are talking about what enables faith to be different from opinion adding an element of certainty. But one can have faith or trust Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:31 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8387 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8387 Also, we should be careful not to elide other distinctions. Faith is also one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit. Now, it seems to me that when the Scripture Thu, 21 May 2009 18:44:50 GMT tlsmith3777@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8386 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8386 Ok when I get time I will send them. Sorry for any delay. But search on illumination. Illumination is not faith, illumination is the spark of divine light that Thu, 21 May 2009 18:35:25 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8385 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8385 Hmmm. O.k., what texts from the Summa promote the view that faith is a form of illumination? I don't personally recall running into that. Infused faith is Thu, 21 May 2009 18:28:04 GMT tlsmith3777@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8384 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8384 At least how we want to understand belief today, which is rather nominalistic and protestant where faith is opinion. :) But divine illumination gives the Thu, 21 May 2009 18:20:49 GMT John Strong http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8383 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8383 Tracy wrote: If I grant this: you can be completely certain even though you do not enjoy the "light" of immediately grasping something, can I also infer the Thu, 21 May 2009 17:50:35 GMT tlsmith3777@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8382 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aquinas/message/8382 Not at all; just learning myself. I am interested in the argument proposed by the mathematician to challenge induction. :-) Sent from my BlackBerry?